Kieran

There's no concrete end in sight.

Anthony said something earlier that I thought was interesting.

You know, if you came in the door and you knew this is a year, it's 18 months, it's two years, right, that's too long, but at least you can put the head down and think.

Almost circle the date and the calendar.

We'll work towards that and we'll just get through it.

And Lavinia, I mentioned, is with us as well.

Lavinia, what is life like for you and your family here?

And seven times or so that's happened to you over the last three years.

Yeah.

How do you explain all of this to the kids?

How tough is it on your relationship with your kids, you know, to be packed in so closely all the time and not having that space?

Yeah.

But even their ages, I'm just thinking about it.

I mean, three years ago, you had a six-year-old, a three-year-old and a one-year-old, did you?

Yeah.

So two of them really have no memory of life before being homeless.

Okay.

And did you think you would be here that long when you moved in?

How often are you trying to...

I don't know, strike that balance between being honest with them about what's happening, but also protecting them from the reality of it.