Kim Anami

Did you just say eight years?

Like, yeah.

I'm like, okay.

I mean, just brushing over that, like it's just one of the issues.

I'm like, that's the main issue.

So it happens a lot where people fall into that place.

And because in our culture we buy into this, okay, well, sex isn't the most important part of a relationship, but it is.

It's the most important part.

It's the thing that the glue that holds you together and the thing that unless you're in an open relationship that you're not doing with other people.

It's the thing that actually distinguishes your intimate relationship.

And like every time, you know, people come to and I've been around these communities and had friends in these communities.

And every time and I'm curious, right?

Like, tell me your story.

Like, how did this evolve?

And it's inevitably come out of some kind of standstill in the marriage where they can't feel like they can't go any further.

They don't want to separate.

And so they open up the relationship.

Right.

As a as their supposed remedy.

And maybe on some level, it's better because they're more honest and they communicate more.