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Kim Ghattas

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Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

For Yasser Arafat, they've lost their base.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

For many of his men, they've lost the only home they've known.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

They're leaving behind their families.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And they're going into exile to Tunis, which has no border whatsoever.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

with with israel and israel thinks that that will be the end of you know the plo and political ambitions and militant ambitions that that is not how how that plays out but importantly you know in lebanon there are two different feelings unfolding here one is disappointment that

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

you know, Israel was not defeated and that it is Arafat who has to leave.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

But at the same time, Israel is not victorious either because the Palestinians and Arafat are still alive, so they can declare some kind of victory.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

You know, Beirut, in the words of some of Arafat's allies, stood up to the Israeli military ambition and was not

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

finished off.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And there is a famous scene of Walid Jumblat, one of the Druze chieftains and warlords at the time, and Nabi Birri, leader of the Amal Shia militia, today Speaker of the House, sitting with Yasser Arafat as he's about to depart.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And, you know, Walid Jumblat talks about how, you know, there is no Arab honor anymore.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And Yasser Arafat is driven to the Beirut port where the Marines are deployed to secure this evacuation.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And he's driven by the Lebanese prime minister, Shafiq Ozan, in his own armored Mercedes.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And the slightly sort of tongue-in-cheek description of that moment is that Shafiq Ozan wanted to make sure that Arafat was going to get on that boat, that this was it.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

The other moment, the other feeling there

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

in Lebanon is that now that the Palestinian militancy, the guerrilla fighters are gone, that this aspect of the Lebanese war, which was really the trigger for it, is over in a way, that perhaps the war in Lebanon

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

is now over as well.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

This is a crucial point because it goes to America's failed promises.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

The Marines deploy and they're supposed to stay on for X number of weeks after the departure of the militants.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Bashir Jmeil has by now been elected president.