Kim Ghattas
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They want to bring their families.
And there is a real debate about leaving behind civilians.
But if you bring the Palestinian militants and their families, you're talking about 100,000 people instead of 15,000 or 30,000.
Who is going to take in that number of Palestinians?
So a decision is made in the end that only the militants will leave and the families will stay behind.
And there are American guarantees for the safety of these civilians.
He is in several basements.
He moves around because he knows he's targeted and the Israelis try to kill him several times.
So he is on the run.
But he is, yes, often, I guess, in a basement, but also, you know, possibly just driving around in a sort of unmarked car because it wasn't as easy to track people at the time as now with mobile phones.
And they are definitely trying to kill him.
And the Americans are very concerned.
that as this evacuation might get underway, the Israelis might target whoever is getting on that ship.
So the Americans want to make sure that the Marines, which they've decided to send in a multinational force, the French, the Italian, the British, the Americans, are going to send a multinational force to Lebanon ahead
of this evacuation to guarantee the safety of all those who are leaving, because they want to make sure nothing goes wrong.
The Israelis are fighting that.
They don't want the Americans to deploy too soon either.
They send men up north to make sure that the Americans aren't going to come in from the port of Junyeh.
You can really see some of the tension in these negotiations about the Palestinian departure from Beirut.
And it is a moment of defeat,