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Kim Ghattas

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Appearances Over Time

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Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And some of them went to their commanders while this was unfolding and said something is terribly wrong inside this camp.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

There are Lebanese Christian forces killing people, civilians.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And the answer was, it's not our problem.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Arabs will kill Arabs.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

He was approached by the American officials and he said, yes, yes, yes.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And then, you know, they were just buying time.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

The numbers vary from 800 to 3,000.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

It's very hard to come to a definitive count because so much remains unknown about exactly how it unfolded.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And again, it wasn't the first massacre of either Christians or of Palestinians or both, but it was...

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

the impunity of it and the way it unfolded and the failed promises of America for safety and the cover that Israel gave that gives Sabra and Shatila such terrible connotations of tragedy and impunity.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

There was an investigation into it, the Kahan Commission

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

in Israel said that Israel had clear responsibility, even if it was not directly involved in the actions on the ground, but it had responsibility for what happened and for how it unfolded.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Ariel Sharon did not want to resign.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Begin did not want him to resign.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

In the end, the terrible compromise was that he would step down as minister of defense, but stayed on

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

as Minister of State and eventually by within a year became Minister of Trade and Industry.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Some of the commanders who had served, interestingly enough, even the one who had warned against bombing an Arab capital,

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

They oversaw what was happening in Sabra and Shatila.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

They were demoted or put into early retirement.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

No one was really sanctioned.