Kim (Kimbly)

They're setting this up for conflict.

And part of the turnaround happened

when Fox News came into existence.

And it threatened CNN.

Fox News was putting a lot more talking heads on because that was cheaper than actually covering the news.

And these panels that have evolved from that, I cannot watch many of those programs for very long.

That's not news.

That's just discussion.

But we would have discussions on we had these call we called guest bookers who would arrange for the guests be on the news.

OK, how do we balance the segment?

We would we would have those discussions.

We would either have.

a second guest with a different opinion in the same segment or another guest to follow that guest, or we would decide, okay, next hour, we're going to have a guest with a different opinion and we're going to tease it.

That is coming up.

And then we come to that second hour.

We'd have a clip of the first guest.

Yeah.

Well, I was at CNN from 95 to 2003.

And I have a little prop to show you.

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