Kim Severson
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2 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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Okay, this all sounds pretty drastic, eliminating the entire Department of Education. And I want to understand why he wants to do that. But before we get there, it might be helpful to understand, and I hate to admit that I don't know this, what exactly is the Department of Education responsible for?
So there's not like a federal rule about how much history a kid needs to graduate from high school. The feds do none of that.
So if the department got eliminated, would all those things just, poof, go away?
But why even sign the executive order then? I mean, Trump's not exactly Mr. Follow the law all the time, but this seems pretty open and shut. It's a cabinet agency. So why sign an executive order abolishing it if it stands to be overturned in the courts?
And what do we imagine overhauling education would look like?
Okay, so this is part of the overarching idea, like streamline the government, take things out of the federal government's hands as much as possible, save a bunch of money, get rid of workers who may be are perceived to not be needed. This is basically kind of a doge operation. Is that right?
So people who took jobs at these nonprofits that Trump doesn't like, with the promise of having their loans forgiven, would no longer get that benefit?
So Trump is already infusing the American education system with his new vision of what public education should be.
So, Dana, I imagine that when any new administration comes in, the priorities of each department will change a little or even a lot. But it sounds like what you're saying with regards to Trump and the Department of Education is that something much deeper and much more fundamental is going on here. Help me understand how we got here.
So essentially, the Department of Education got woven into the body politic as we know it, right?
Yeah, that is an image that is just seared into the minds of a lot of people. Okay, so after George W. Bush, we come to Obama. And what was his vision for American public education?
Okay. So what happened? What changed?
Okay, so how did we go from there to where we are now?
OK, Dana, you told us about the investigations the Department of Education has already opened. So Trump is actually embracing the powers of the Department of Education, even as he's talking about eliminating it.
This feels like a big change. And for many parents who send their kids to public schools, should they strap in for a radical shift in what public school is in America?
Dana, thanks for coming on the show.
We'll be right back.
On Sunday, Canada's resurgent Liberal Party chose a new leader, Mark Carney, to succeed Justin Trudeau and to take over the country's response to an ugly trade war with the United States. Carney's a business executive who's never held elected office. In his acceptance speech, he took direct aim at President Trump by rejecting Trump's call for Canada to become America's 51st state.
And by declaring that Canada would not shrink from a fight over tariffs.
Carney will become prime minister in the coming days and is expected to quickly call for an election to ride the wave of anti-Trump sentiment that's energized the Liberal Party in recent days. The race against Canada's Conservative Party is expected to be close. Today's episode was produced by Eric Krupke, Sydney Harper, and Nina Feldman. It was edited by Devin Taylor.
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