Kirk Goldsberry

If you look at teams which aren't doing it, one team sticks out, which is the Lakers.

And that sort of makes sense because their guards...

are not great defensive minded stars.

Yeah.

Luca and Austin Reeves aren't going to do this, but if you have Derek White or if you have Shaden Sharp and Drew Holiday and you have good depth behind them, why don't you just do this?

Be these pests in the backcourt and slow down your opponents.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my third trend.

I love the Suns, though.

I have the East.

And I want to hear what you say because you're the historian here.

Is the 2025-26 Eastern Conference the most open conference we've had in a decade or two?

I don't even know who your favorite is, right?

Obviously, we talk about the Western Conference right now.

If we talk about the East and West in the 2010s, we're talking about Warriors and Cavs every year.

The Spurs are in there.

Or there's clear favorites.

The East is so wide open.

I think at the beginning of the year, hey, it's the Knicks and the Cavs.

And if you look at FanDuel, they still have the Cavs as the betting favorite.