Kit Bennett

He's the guy with the codes.

And I am sufficiently idealistic to think that this is done by honest players.

In New Zealand, it's done by honest players.

I believe that the people in there are essentially good people.

And that's a function of what you find in Western intelligence services, because that's a reflection of our society.

And intelligence services have to be a reflection of our society, just like police services have to be a reflection of our society, like the military.

And the esteem with which New Zealanders hold the military in

is not the esteem that a lot of countries hold their military in because their military's turned on them from time to time.

After the such case, there was a demonstration outside 175 Taranaki Street

So we were up in the director's office looking down at 10,000 people.

That's a lot of people protesting.

And Ron said, this is why we do this job, Kit, because all those people are going to go home tonight and go off to parties and go home tonight and nothing is going to happen to them.

They think we're in here photographing them.

We're not.

But that's why we do this job.

And I always thought that's right.

Maybe a bit idealistic, but that's exactly right.

And lots of countries don't have that.

So we have that.

And, you know, the song says, you don't know what you've got till it's gone.