Konstantin Kisin

And I find that quite an interesting thing because I was in Hungary earlier this year and they have a very actually right-wing government under Viktor Orban. And one of the things that I found out is they were very keen to deal with abortion in some way. They wanted to reduce the number of abortions in Hungary.

But they looked around the world and they realized that abortion as a political issue doesn't work. It's an issue that actually loses votes for the right. Even if people tend to agree with the position, somehow it still ends up being a vote loser and it's a bad thing to do. So... What they've been doing, as you probably know, is pursuing very pro-family policies more generally.

But they looked around the world and they realized that abortion as a political issue doesn't work. It's an issue that actually loses votes for the right. Even if people tend to agree with the position, somehow it still ends up being a vote loser and it's a bad thing to do. So... What they've been doing, as you probably know, is pursuing very pro-family policies more generally.

But they looked around the world and they realized that abortion as a political issue doesn't work. It's an issue that actually loses votes for the right. Even if people tend to agree with the position, somehow it still ends up being a vote loser and it's a bad thing to do. So... What they've been doing, as you probably know, is pursuing very pro-family policies more generally.

If you have X number of kids, you get this tax break. If you have this number of kids.

If you have X number of kids, you get this tax break. If you have this number of kids.

If you have X number of kids, you get this tax break. If you have this number of kids.

Exactly. And what they've found is without actually legislating much about abortion, they've reduced the number of abortions in half simply by pursuing policies that make families more appealing for people to have.

Exactly. And what they've found is without actually legislating much about abortion, they've reduced the number of abortions in half simply by pursuing policies that make families more appealing for people to have.

Exactly. And what they've found is without actually legislating much about abortion, they've reduced the number of abortions in half simply by pursuing policies that make families more appealing for people to have.

Well, I think if you look at the two campaigns that we just saw, I actually thought that, you know, we went to the Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. Yeah. Well, we were kind of there in a just like, let's see what's going on here capacity rather than joining in with the salutes. But

Well, I think if you look at the two campaigns that we just saw, I actually thought that, you know, we went to the Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. Yeah. Well, we were kind of there in a just like, let's see what's going on here capacity rather than joining in with the salutes. But

Well, I think if you look at the two campaigns that we just saw, I actually thought that, you know, we went to the Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. Yeah. Well, we were kind of there in a just like, let's see what's going on here capacity rather than joining in with the salutes. But

I would say, actually, if you dig down into the core of the Trump campaign, its message is actually very positive, I would argue, which was the Make America Great Again thing and what we saw at the rally, too. It was really about... people who love their country and wanted to be successful. That's what I saw there.

I would say, actually, if you dig down into the core of the Trump campaign, its message is actually very positive, I would argue, which was the Make America Great Again thing and what we saw at the rally, too. It was really about... people who love their country and wanted to be successful. That's what I saw there.

I would say, actually, if you dig down into the core of the Trump campaign, its message is actually very positive, I would argue, which was the Make America Great Again thing and what we saw at the rally, too. It was really about... people who love their country and wanted to be successful. That's what I saw there.

When I looked at the Harris campaign or the way that she conducted interviews or the way she responded to challenging questions, that was all entirely pivoting to how evil and wrong and bad Trump is. So by the end of the campaign, I didn't think many people knew what she stood for. Whereas with Trump, at least, look, the political side of like, these are the bad guys. We're not like them.

When I looked at the Harris campaign or the way that she conducted interviews or the way she responded to challenging questions, that was all entirely pivoting to how evil and wrong and bad Trump is. So by the end of the campaign, I didn't think many people knew what she stood for. Whereas with Trump, at least, look, the political side of like, these are the bad guys. We're not like them.

When I looked at the Harris campaign or the way that she conducted interviews or the way she responded to challenging questions, that was all entirely pivoting to how evil and wrong and bad Trump is. So by the end of the campaign, I didn't think many people knew what she stood for. Whereas with Trump, at least, look, the political side of like, these are the bad guys. We're not like them.

That's always going to be part of politics. But actually, I did think I came away from the, to my great surprise, actually, very relieved that Trump did win and very hopeful for the world as a result, which is not a position I thought I would be in before the election, actually. But I think going to that rally really changed my mind about a lot of this.