Konstantin Kisin

That's probably what they think. But the difference is that the problem with cancel culture was people being unfairly treated and misrepresented and lied about. And if someone accuses you of something that you haven't done, or if someone claims that you've said something that you haven't said, and you and I both had those experiences, of course you should never apologize in that situation.

But at the same time, if you've made an actual mistake, the best way to make that go away is to hold your hands up and go, that was a mistake, we're investigating, we'll find out what happened, and the right processes will be put in place so this doesn't happen anymore. Right. That's how you deal with it.

But at the same time, if you've made an actual mistake, the best way to make that go away is to hold your hands up and go, that was a mistake, we're investigating, we'll find out what happened, and the right processes will be put in place so this doesn't happen anymore. Right. That's how you deal with it.

But at the same time, if you've made an actual mistake, the best way to make that go away is to hold your hands up and go, that was a mistake, we're investigating, we'll find out what happened, and the right processes will be put in place so this doesn't happen anymore. Right. That's how you deal with it.

And at some point you might have to admit culpability and some people might have to accept the consequences of that. But that is the way you maintain credibility. Anyway, it feels to me like we're in an interesting moment. But in terms of the stuff that you and I have picked up kind of on the ground here in America, I think one other thing that is really important to say is that.

And at some point you might have to admit culpability and some people might have to accept the consequences of that. But that is the way you maintain credibility. Anyway, it feels to me like we're in an interesting moment. But in terms of the stuff that you and I have picked up kind of on the ground here in America, I think one other thing that is really important to say is that.

And at some point you might have to admit culpability and some people might have to accept the consequences of that. But that is the way you maintain credibility. Anyway, it feels to me like we're in an interesting moment. But in terms of the stuff that you and I have picked up kind of on the ground here in America, I think one other thing that is really important to say is that.

The wave of optimism, positivity that happened in America after the last election, which we were here for, and we did one of these conversations then, doesn't cover up the fact that a lot of ordinary Americans, left, right, center, up, down, a lot of people are really hurting. We heard this from guest after guest and ordinary person after ordinary person that we spoke to.

The wave of optimism, positivity that happened in America after the last election, which we were here for, and we did one of these conversations then, doesn't cover up the fact that a lot of ordinary Americans, left, right, center, up, down, a lot of people are really hurting. We heard this from guest after guest and ordinary person after ordinary person that we spoke to.

The wave of optimism, positivity that happened in America after the last election, which we were here for, and we did one of these conversations then, doesn't cover up the fact that a lot of ordinary Americans, left, right, center, up, down, a lot of people are really hurting. We heard this from guest after guest and ordinary person after ordinary person that we spoke to.

A hell of a lot of people are in a position where they're financially very precarious. They're living hand to mouth. They don't have savings. Costs of things are going up. And they're looking for solutions to those things. And I think a lot of people hope that this re-industrializing America agenda, bringing jobs to America is going to work. But at this moment in time,

A hell of a lot of people are in a position where they're financially very precarious. They're living hand to mouth. They don't have savings. Costs of things are going up. And they're looking for solutions to those things. And I think a lot of people hope that this re-industrializing America agenda, bringing jobs to America is going to work. But at this moment in time,

A hell of a lot of people are in a position where they're financially very precarious. They're living hand to mouth. They don't have savings. Costs of things are going up. And they're looking for solutions to those things. And I think a lot of people hope that this re-industrializing America agenda, bringing jobs to America is going to work. But at this moment in time,

a lot of people are in a very difficult situation.

a lot of people are in a very difficult situation.

a lot of people are in a very difficult situation.

And I whether whatever my personal view on it, forget about President Trump. It doesn't matter which side of the political debate you're on. I think that's by far and away the biggest issue. And I really hope that the current administration succeeds in making more giving more Americans access to the American dream, because.

And I whether whatever my personal view on it, forget about President Trump. It doesn't matter which side of the political debate you're on. I think that's by far and away the biggest issue. And I really hope that the current administration succeeds in making more giving more Americans access to the American dream, because.

And I whether whatever my personal view on it, forget about President Trump. It doesn't matter which side of the political debate you're on. I think that's by far and away the biggest issue. And I really hope that the current administration succeeds in making more giving more Americans access to the American dream, because.

You know, I thought Charlemagne, who we had on the show, made this point very well. And Andrew Schultz talked about this as well when we interviewed him, which is the reason that you're seeing support for like that Luigi guy who killed a health insurance company executive and other movements of that kind is that a hell of a lot of people