Konstantin Kisin

We are going to have to abandon completely the idea of net zero.

We can definitely continue to invest in new technology, and we should be, and we should be pursuing newer, cleaner, cheaper forms of energy.

But the number one priority of government policy going forward should be to deliver the cheapest...

possible reliable abundant energy that we can so that A our industry can thrive and B so that you are not paying ridiculous electricity and gas prices because we have some of the highest energy prices for consumers in the world as well.

Net zero is industrial suicide and we've been committing it for far too long and it has to end.

Mike Graham, welcome back to Trigonomics.

Good day.

I think this is my third time, isn't it?

It is your third time.

And you are now a fellow YouTuber.

I am.

Courtesy of some events.

Yes, indeed.

So what happened, mate?

So just to get back to this thing about something was posted on your Facebook thing, which was a bit of a racist comment.

Well, this is an interesting part of the conversation because I see you, you've been forced out or whatever.

Not renewed, whatever the fuck the term is.

Yeah, they fired me, basically.

Right.

But now you've got your own YouTube channel.