Konstantin Kisin

It's not because it's personal towards him.

But he was in the Conservative Party arguing with me on Question Time saying net zero is brilliant.

He's now part of reform.

You can see why people have questions.

Well, see, this is, I mean, I am actually, believe it or not, a little bit sympathetic on that because what happened for many decades is we basically never were allowed to pay MPs properly.

relative to what you want someone, the caliber of the people that you want in power or in those positions.

So what happened is they said, well, you can't be paid properly, but we will give you this like expenses fund where you can make as much money as you want.

So really, it's double the salary that we're paying.

And then they all got caught when the expenses scandal came out.

My view is, actually, I think MPs should be paid way more than they are at the moment.

I'd pay them a quarter of a million pounds a year.

But if you get caught fiddling the books, we'd chop your fucking head off.

No, no, no, no.

You just give them a flat amount, and then you do whatever.

But what I'm saying is you just need proper salaries, because then that's how you attract proper people.

Like in any business, right?

If you want to hire somebody to do a talk show, you're going to have to pay them a lot, right?

Or even if you don't, if they get a big audience, then you're going to have to pay them a lot, right?

So if you want to attract the top caliber people to politics, you have to pay them well because it's a shit job, let's be honest.

People keep asking me if I want to.