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But the reason why I was not talking to any of the present-day survivors is because I sort of had to make a decision.
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Bernie Getz, the shooter, he's still around.
The Chuck ToddCast
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He's still talking very loudly about, you know, what he did.
The Chuck ToddCast
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But when I realized I could not also talk to his victims, I couldn't rescue their stories in the same way, I stepped away from that and I said, let me just start from the beginning.
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Let me reconstruct the story because the most amazing thing to me was the way in which the victims were completely erased from this story, written out of it, didn't matter.
The Chuck ToddCast
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And so my journey was really trying to reconstruct who were they?
The Chuck ToddCast
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You know, the one thing about being a historian is we are pretty good detectives.
The Chuck ToddCast
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We have to go back to the beginning.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
I was looking at everything.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
I was looking at every newspaper account.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
I was looking at original, you know, the probation report of Bernie Getz himself.
The Chuck ToddCast
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I was the details there, depositions, court transcripts and files.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
One of the really interesting pieces of information that gave me a lot was these young men had applied for compensation, a few of them, from something that New York has, which is called the Crime Victims Board.
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And if you're a victim of crime in New York City, especially in the 80s, there was this provision.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
You could apply for some funding because, of course, people were disabled or injured from these horrific crimes.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
And when they try to do that, they are denied.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
They are decided to not be the victims.
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Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
It was they that deserved what they got.
The Chuck ToddCast
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
And so from there, it was just kind of like, whoa, we got to start at the beginning.
The Chuck ToddCast
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How is it that this all happened?