Kristin Demoranville

And again, I just go back to, it just makes complete logical sense to me. It's like a no-brainer. Like, of course we're involved in that now. Like, of course we are. But because the focus is always so heavily on the tech, people forget about all of the social engineering around it, all of the other little things that could happen, how it's a domino effect.

And again, I just go back to, it just makes complete logical sense to me. It's like a no-brainer. Like, of course we're involved in that now. Like, of course we are. But because the focus is always so heavily on the tech, people forget about all of the social engineering around it, all of the other little things that could happen, how it's a domino effect.

You've already displayed that very well in what you just said. So I think we've got a lot of work to do. And I think... We've got a lot of ways to figure out how to work together and collaborate. I am very grateful that the food teams generally are very accepting of us. I do get a lot of conversations about how do I talk to cybersecurity and technology in my own company because they're not you.

You've already displayed that very well in what you just said. So I think we've got a lot of work to do. And I think... We've got a lot of ways to figure out how to work together and collaborate. I am very grateful that the food teams generally are very accepting of us. I do get a lot of conversations about how do I talk to cybersecurity and technology in my own company because they're not you.

You're nice. I could talk to you. That's what I get. And I'm like, I said, you're a food company, right? They're like, yeah. I said, just bring them some food. Start with a peace offering. I mean, when I was in food production, there was always food around. So, I mean, it's always in the break rooms and stuff, depending on what it is. I mean, obviously, you're not going to want like a can of soup.

You're nice. I could talk to you. That's what I get. And I'm like, I said, you're a food company, right? They're like, yeah. I said, just bring them some food. Start with a peace offering. I mean, when I was in food production, there was always food around. So, I mean, it's always in the break rooms and stuff, depending on what it is. I mean, obviously, you're not going to want like a can of soup.

But if you have like a bakery company, just bring whatever you're making there. I also said, you know, a lot of it comes down to they're very busy. They feel like they're on fire all the time, too. So if you can find ways to work with them, come up ideas that would help them alleviate their stress, then do it. It's kind of reciprocal in that regard.

But if you have like a bakery company, just bring whatever you're making there. I also said, you know, a lot of it comes down to they're very busy. They feel like they're on fire all the time, too. So if you can find ways to work with them, come up ideas that would help them alleviate their stress, then do it. It's kind of reciprocal in that regard.

I do know some really great programs that some of the food companies are doing well in terms of cybersecurity. But I still haven't seen the true partnership between food safety and incorporation to food safety culture. It's definitely talked about more now. People are definitely paying attention.

I do know some really great programs that some of the food companies are doing well in terms of cybersecurity. But I still haven't seen the true partnership between food safety and incorporation to food safety culture. It's definitely talked about more now. People are definitely paying attention.

I know over the last like three years that I've been attending, it's definitely been more of a topic of conversation. And I think I've spoken in every one since I've been there and I will continue because it constantly needs to be repeated. But you're right. I think we need more scenario based conversations.

I know over the last like three years that I've been attending, it's definitely been more of a topic of conversation. And I think I've spoken in every one since I've been there and I will continue because it constantly needs to be repeated. But you're right. I think we need more scenario based conversations.

I think that's really important to talk about it like that because people only understand if you can tell a story, that's a different conversation, right? You know this from being in publishing. If you can tell it in a way that makes people remember, it might cause a reaction rather than, oh, that's not my job. And I hope that's not what happened at Boar's Head either, because yikes.

I think that's really important to talk about it like that because people only understand if you can tell a story, that's a different conversation, right? You know this from being in publishing. If you can tell it in a way that makes people remember, it might cause a reaction rather than, oh, that's not my job. And I hope that's not what happened at Boar's Head either, because yikes.

There seems like it's a series of unfortunate events that just kind of really went sideways. I mean, this is as bad as like the peanut corporation of America, but granted that was a different situation. That was malicious. This is so far not malicious, thankfully. That's real rough.

There seems like it's a series of unfortunate events that just kind of really went sideways. I mean, this is as bad as like the peanut corporation of America, but granted that was a different situation. That was malicious. This is so far not malicious, thankfully. That's real rough.

Yeah, he's put out some really powerful posts on LinkedIn, actually. I'll link a few into the show notes for the listeners, but he's definitely made me go, whoa, this is a really bad situation beyond it was already bad because people had lost their lives and have major complications beyond that. But the fact that, you know, I was speaking about this on a podcast this

Yeah, he's put out some really powerful posts on LinkedIn, actually. I'll link a few into the show notes for the listeners, but he's definitely made me go, whoa, this is a really bad situation beyond it was already bad because people had lost their lives and have major complications beyond that. But the fact that, you know, I was speaking about this on a podcast this

this morning that the community was really ultimately affected heavily in that area of Virginia. They laid off 500 people. That's in a rural part of Virginia. That's not, that's 500 people in the workforce. That's not good. Like that's, that's really bad. And it's not like they got severance. The plant got closed. Like it's not, it's not going to be, this is, this is scary. It's frustrating. Yeah.

this morning that the community was really ultimately affected heavily in that area of Virginia. They laid off 500 people. That's in a rural part of Virginia. That's not, that's 500 people in the workforce. That's not good. Like that's, that's really bad. And it's not like they got severance. The plant got closed. Like it's not, it's not going to be, this is, this is scary. It's frustrating. Yeah.