Kristin Demoranville

You know, until we fix the human problem, it has to be said. However, I don't enjoy saying it. I hate saying it because I feel like, like you said, people should know this. They should know better. We teach it to elementary school kids. Like, come on, you know, but it is what it is.

You know, until we fix the human problem, it has to be said. However, I don't enjoy saying it. I hate saying it because I feel like, like you said, people should know this. They should know better. We teach it to elementary school kids. Like, come on, you know, but it is what it is.

Yep, PLCs.

Yep, PLCs.

Before we jump back in, I wanted to let you know where you can catch me live this October. I'll be speaking at the Food Safety Consortium on Monday, October 21st, followed by the ICS Conference in Atlanta from October 22nd to 24th. You won't want to miss my talk at that conference on Thursday, October 24th.

Before we jump back in, I wanted to let you know where you can catch me live this October. I'll be speaking at the Food Safety Consortium on Monday, October 21st, followed by the ICS Conference in Atlanta from October 22nd to 24th. You won't want to miss my talk at that conference on Thursday, October 24th.

After that, I'm heading to Montreal for the Insider Conference from October 28th through 30th, where I'll be on a fantastic panel with some of our previous podcast guests. All the details will be in the show notes. Now, I've got an exciting deal for you. Rick has been incredibly generous and offered a discount code to the Food Safety Consortium.

After that, I'm heading to Montreal for the Insider Conference from October 28th through 30th, where I'll be on a fantastic panel with some of our previous podcast guests. All the details will be in the show notes. Now, I've got an exciting deal for you. Rick has been incredibly generous and offered a discount code to the Food Safety Consortium.

Use the code RICKYB at checkout to get $200 off your ticket. That's R-I-C-K-Y-B. Huge thanks to Rick for making this available to all the listeners. The Food Safety Consortium from October 19th to 22nd. The link to register will be in the show notes and you can find out more details at foodsafetyconsortium.org.

Use the code RICKYB at checkout to get $200 off your ticket. That's R-I-C-K-Y-B. Huge thanks to Rick for making this available to all the listeners. The Food Safety Consortium from October 19th to 22nd. The link to register will be in the show notes and you can find out more details at foodsafetyconsortium.org.

Correct. And it should be, especially since chief information security officers are being held accountable for Now, it does a food safety CISO or CISA, however you want to say it. Do they want to take full responsibility for a foodborne illness off a production line that came from a cyber attack? No, of course not.

Correct. And it should be, especially since chief information security officers are being held accountable for Now, it does a food safety CISO or CISA, however you want to say it. Do they want to take full responsibility for a foodborne illness off a production line that came from a cyber attack? No, of course not.

But would that motivate them to make sure that all the protocols were covered and we're constantly monitoring and being prepared and being resilient rather than just recovering? No. Yeah. So I see the good and the bad with it. It's a slippery slope too, Rick, because there's not enough people that understand the system. You know what I mean?

But would that motivate them to make sure that all the protocols were covered and we're constantly monitoring and being prepared and being resilient rather than just recovering? No. Yeah. So I see the good and the bad with it. It's a slippery slope too, Rick, because there's not enough people that understand the system. You know what I mean?

The system of food and the system of how technology and food are together. You know as well as I do in these facilities, it's production uptime and employee safety. And that's all anybody cares about. Obviously food safety is included in that conversation, but it's, it's that constant movement. We gotta be agile. We gotta go, we gotta go. And if it gets in the way, they don't wanna deal with it.

The system of food and the system of how technology and food are together. You know as well as I do in these facilities, it's production uptime and employee safety. And that's all anybody cares about. Obviously food safety is included in that conversation, but it's, it's that constant movement. We gotta be agile. We gotta go, we gotta go. And if it gets in the way, they don't wanna deal with it.

So the idea, and I know that this is where I've sat down and I had some really awesome conversations at the conference and beyond.

So the idea, and I know that this is where I've sat down and I had some really awesome conversations at the conference and beyond.

Realizing that food defense and food safety and security have to work with business mindsets of how do we incorporate us into their bottom line, if you will, their production uptime and their employee safety and creating that food safety culture to grab the whole trifecta of buzzy words. But cybersecurity is part of that now.

Realizing that food defense and food safety and security have to work with business mindsets of how do we incorporate us into their bottom line, if you will, their production uptime and their employee safety and creating that food safety culture to grab the whole trifecta of buzzy words. But cybersecurity is part of that now.