Kristin Demoranville
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first heard Jun 2024
last heard Mar 2025
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And also, I think it's a skill that can be taught on an intern basis as well. You can have college students working. I mean, it solves some problems, right? It solves a lot of problems. Why aren't we doing this? Kyle, we need to start a movement right now.
I mean, and they can do it with like shipping containers, which just basically rot. I think anything you can do with a shipping container is pretty cool. Make a house, make a vertical garden, anything like that.
It's just amazing that people have that ingenious way of looking at the world around them to see something instead of just trash or just waste to make it something that's functional and sometimes quite pretty. But yeah, definitely.
Yeah, at least for like the fruits and vegetable aspect. But I mean, I'm sure they're not going to want to slaughter their own cows and things like that. I mean, that could be very detrimental to people, I suppose. But I like that idea because it teaches responsibility and appreciation for the food that you get and you have, right? It almost empowers people to care. And it's a great skill, right?
If you know how to grow carrots and tomatoes, that helps. You can grow this on your balcony in a city, you know, or anywhere else. I used to do that. I mean, I grow herbs inside my house. I suppose that's a bit of vertical farming in itself. And it definitely is biohacking, I guess. But I think the younger generations kind of recognize this, Kyle.
I think that they do see that there needs to be more. But the problem is, is that the way our systems are set up, it's not set up to do that just yet. And this could be, I mean, if anybody wants to do this, please let us know. Or if you know if it's happening, please let us know. Because I think that that is such a brilliant idea and it empowers people.
And that empowerment in itself can help with resilience because it's not such a daunting task and doom and gloom. This is a positive moment. I think we need more of those types of wins moving forward, especially as we're having this change in labor force. In terms of technology and labor force, I've had a couple of conversations with some people in larger farms, do IT and cybersecurity.
And they were saying that they're hoping that AI will actually come in and help with some of their labor shortage issues because they can offset some of. that to AI rather than having to hire different people. And there's restrictions because of language, displacement of people, because obviously we all know that a lot of our crops in the United States, as an example, are not picked by Americans.
They are outsourced. But we have this labor shortage now. because of other immigration restrictions and things of such. And I don't want to get into the politics of that, obviously, but they are hoping that AI is going to help drive that. Are you seeing that anywhere else in the world, that AI is potentially an answer for some of the food insecurity?
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Yeah, and I think that's actually something that I think a lot about when it comes around. The food industry is intentional sabotage, whether it's a nation state or just someone who's just out for whatever. That's the part that scares me the most because ultimately cybersecurity we deal with is social engineering.
That's our primary focus, whether it's done via computer with ransomware or different viruses or whatever. It's ultimately just social engineering. And that's something I think we've lost focus on because we focus too heavily on the technology aspect. We are not focusing on people process behavior. That's a misbeat, in my opinion.
And we really need to start going back to our roots in that regard, where we need to think in the way that an attacker would, whether that's. I'm going to take an anchor in a simple capacity and drag it on the bottom of the sea floor and pull up this cable. Let's be real.
Like that seems like that's something somebody should have done a risk analysis on and the likelihood and the impact of it, if that would actually happen. And I'm not downplaying that situation at all. It does seem like something that would have been part of that assessment. And going beyond that with food, that risk factor is how we deal with being resilient.
If we don't know the risks and the impact potentially that we could be looking at, how do we create a resilience culture, let alone a resilience plan for these types of situations? Whether it's somebody comes in and sprays the crops with something they shouldn't, or it was a mistake and it ends up being more toxic.
or somebody sprayed the seeds and we didn't know, or somebody did something to the production line that's making your favorite pastry. All these things is really concerning. The more we mass produce, the larger we grow, the more I feel like at times we lose sight of what's the most important part. And I think that at times we need to go back to that.
We need to start thinking the way these people do in order to keep and stay ahead in resilience or at least stay resilient.
We also need to use a bit of imagination, Kyle. I think we have to stop thinking the best in others and goodness of others will prevail. We have to start thinking a little bit differently. It doesn't mean that we're a bad person. It doesn't mean that we're thinking the worst about people, but
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