Kristin Demoranville
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first heard Jun 2024
last heard Mar 2025
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And I think it's super important, especially within food safety culture, that you identify and make sure everybody understands that we are making food, we are a food company, but we also are a food manufacturing company, as an example. And I know that seems really stupid to say, but people forget.
People forget what they're doing because they get so isolated into, I am running the numbers and accounting and finance, and I am the HR person. I'm just dealing with people. And I think some people forget the main mission is good, safe food for all, full stop. And as long as everybody goes to that beat of that drum, it runs smoother. Trust and believe. It really does.
And people are like, oh, Christian culture. Oh, it's this whole, you know. Yeah. All right. Get over it. Like it is. This is what has to happen. I would like to continue eating safe food. I'm sure Mark would like to feed his family and eat good too. Yeah. And if it comes down to that, you have to actually start really working hard to make SBOMs easier to deal with for food. Yeah, do it.
It's it's not a problem in that regard. It's just the again. And everybody's like, oh, no, it's probably too daunting. Again, boil the ocean. Don't do that. You know, make the tea. And you've created a platform that makes tea. It doesn't boil the ocean. which is great.
And I really appreciate the fact that you've put it in common language and you really have kind of formed up that common language for people so they understand what it is and what it isn't, which is what regulations are supposed to do, right? Automove is a great example. They created a language set that everybody can speak to. Now you're creating a language set for SBOM, so it's not so daunting.
Granted, we have the worst acronym, I think, out there. It's okay. We'll just, we're going to roll with it. I mean, I'm sure there are worse ones out there. And if you heard any acronyms on the show today that you were like, what was that? Don't worry about it. It's fine. I honestly, you can Google it if you want, but don't worry. It's, it's, I can't even keep track of all of them either.
And all of the government acronyms too, on top of all the security ones and the IT ones, it gets a very yikes. And then the food industry as a whole has a ton of them as well. So as humans, why are we doing this? Why do we, why do we do this to each other? Cause this just creates confusion. Yeah.
I mean, how do you talk to people on the plane, Mark? You're like, yeah, I work with an S-bomb company. People are like, what?
Yeah, well said, well said. And I do think that the world is kind of spinning madly round, we'll call it a song. And I think that a lot of people get stuck on, I call it the shiny, especially when you go in and do a factory tour and they walk you through the lines and it's like the VIP tour and they roll the red carpet out and you get to see all it.
And all you look at about what's coming off of the belt, kind of like those TV shows that you like inside the factory. Yeah, sure. And you're just like, ooh, look at that stuff. And I always say, stop getting stuck on the shiny. You need to start looking around it. You need to start seeing what's going on, how is it supported and put up. And that starts a lot with people in process.
So I like that you've actually handled this on a people process aspect rather than just attacking the tech. Because the tech is important to work with, but ultimately people are going to undo or make it better or make it worse or do all these things around it, manipulate it in some way. based on the processes they use at each facility. So it's not always a cookie cutter situation.
It's more of an organic kind of living situation. I think that's why supply chain management is so daunting because it's like this living organism that kind of keeps changing and adding things and removing things. And now we have new ways of moving product and we have new types of software that are coming in.
Then AI jumps in and then it's like all these things and it's just, some people are just like, whoa. And then I think to myself, how does the animal kingdom actually work, right? Like all these animals live together. I was having this conversation with my partner yesterday.
We were walking around our little lake and he said, do you think the birds talk to each other or do they talk to like the turtle or like the ducks? And I said, I don't know. I think they just acknowledge each other, right? Like they just kind of live in harmony. Like it's kind of there. I said, us humans could really take a beat on that because, you know, we should just live in harmony with it.
And that's, it kind of comes back down to that systems thinking aspect where, you know, everything's kind of in its holistic cycle and that's how the supply chain is. It's a cycle. Ultimately.
Or the data center that was inside the woman's room.
You know, I have at some point I should do some more stories because I got them on it going in and out of factories. And I'm sure you do too, Mark, when you've heard CFC things.
You know, I often say that a cyber attack is going to happen. It's just a matter of when, not if now. We're really that far down this line now. And staying resilient through it is what we're trying to do. Meaning you don't lose your business. You don't have to fire your people. You can keep things moving. You can keep the food safe.
So really, in reality, is S-bombs are just trying to keep people resilient. That's just all it is. You know, as long as you know that you can deal with it. If you don't know, then you've got a problem. And nobody wants that like bill that shows up in the mail from something you probably did 10 years ago and totally forgot about.
You know, it's like that kind of like, oh, that anxious feeling, that horribleness, that shame that hits you like a ton of bricks or something to that effect. I think people need to look at it like that, where we're mitigating the shame of you not knowing. And also we're making sure that when something does happen, that you can survive it. That's the important part.
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