Kristin Demoranville

And I think of that often, especially within the food system that we're working in. And it's scary, but it's not to the point where we can reverse some of this, right? We can still work through this. Like you said, we're primates. We're just trying to figure it out, right? And as someone who studied primates, gorillas specifically, I definitely feel that on a whole other level.

And I think of that often, especially within the food system that we're working in. And it's scary, but it's not to the point where we can reverse some of this, right? We can still work through this. Like you said, we're primates. We're just trying to figure it out, right? And as someone who studied primates, gorillas specifically, I definitely feel that on a whole other level.

The basic needs will be met no matter what happens. Hopefully it's just not in chaos.

The basic needs will be met no matter what happens. Hopefully it's just not in chaos.

Yeah. We just have to work with it, I guess, is the best way to do it and adjust to it rather than, oh, it's the end of the world. It's not. We just have to make adjustments that may be a little bit uncomfortable. Swinging it back into cybersecurity. And this is what I love about doing this show is because we kind of expand our knowledge set a lot more when we talk.

Yeah. We just have to work with it, I guess, is the best way to do it and adjust to it rather than, oh, it's the end of the world. It's not. We just have to make adjustments that may be a little bit uncomfortable. Swinging it back into cybersecurity. And this is what I love about doing this show is because we kind of expand our knowledge set a lot more when we talk.

As a cybersecurity expert, and I think both of you agree, the more you're informed about the things around the systems that you protect and the different type of people you protect, the better you can be at protecting them. Because if you don't have that knowledge, then what are you doing?

As a cybersecurity expert, and I think both of you agree, the more you're informed about the things around the systems that you protect and the different type of people you protect, the better you can be at protecting them. Because if you don't have that knowledge, then what are you doing?

Andrew, I'm sure when you went and worked with the air traffic control, I mean, at the time, were you an air traffic control specialist or was that something you learned on the job?

Andrew, I'm sure when you went and worked with the air traffic control, I mean, at the time, were you an air traffic control specialist or was that something you learned on the job?

No, we're definitely a very rare, small, niche-y breed of people. And we're very proud of it, actually. We get us in a room and we all completely geek out together. We really are a community, which I appreciate. And not just on the U.S. side, it's global. We talk to everybody. We're trying to educate more and more. I mean, I've double-niched myself between OT and the food industry.

No, we're definitely a very rare, small, niche-y breed of people. And we're very proud of it, actually. We get us in a room and we all completely geek out together. We really are a community, which I appreciate. And not just on the U.S. side, it's global. We talk to everybody. We're trying to educate more and more. I mean, I've double-niched myself between OT and the food industry.

So I'm kind of like a party of one, you know, a lot. Yeah. Which is okay. And you know what? I'm hopeful that people will join the party because we do have a lot of fun over here for food and ag. As we're wrapping up this conversation, because wow, I feel like I've learned a lot, which I really appreciate greatly.

So I'm kind of like a party of one, you know, a lot. Yeah. Which is okay. And you know what? I'm hopeful that people will join the party because we do have a lot of fun over here for food and ag. As we're wrapping up this conversation, because wow, I feel like I've learned a lot, which I really appreciate greatly.

Is there anything that you want to discuss about some of the future trends that are coming up? The things that are going to, we need to keep on our radar, not only as cybersecurity professionals, but any of the food people that are listening and beyond.

Is there anything that you want to discuss about some of the future trends that are coming up? The things that are going to, we need to keep on our radar, not only as cybersecurity professionals, but any of the food people that are listening and beyond.

Based on the FBI, right? I've sat in some food defense meetings talking with the FBI, and they always keep saying, get to know your field office.

Based on the FBI, right? I've sat in some food defense meetings talking with the FBI, and they always keep saying, get to know your field office.

I think also having agro tech in general be built with security in mind, as well as really super important. So any product security people that are on here, hello, can you do that for us? That'd be great, because it would just get that little bit more of okay, we're somewhat protective. And now we just have to do everything else around it.

I think also having agro tech in general be built with security in mind, as well as really super important. So any product security people that are on here, hello, can you do that for us? That'd be great, because it would just get that little bit more of okay, we're somewhat protective. And now we just have to do everything else around it.