Kristin Demoranville

So I like that you've actually handled this on a people process aspect rather than just attacking the tech. Because the tech is important to work with, but ultimately people are going to undo or make it better or make it worse or do all these things around it, manipulate it in some way. based on the processes they use at each facility. So it's not always a cookie cutter situation.

So I like that you've actually handled this on a people process aspect rather than just attacking the tech. Because the tech is important to work with, but ultimately people are going to undo or make it better or make it worse or do all these things around it, manipulate it in some way. based on the processes they use at each facility. So it's not always a cookie cutter situation.

It's more of an organic kind of living situation. I think that's why supply chain management is so daunting because it's like this living organism that kind of keeps changing and adding things and removing things. And now we have new ways of moving product and we have new types of software that are coming in.

It's more of an organic kind of living situation. I think that's why supply chain management is so daunting because it's like this living organism that kind of keeps changing and adding things and removing things. And now we have new ways of moving product and we have new types of software that are coming in.

Then AI jumps in and then it's like all these things and it's just, some people are just like, whoa. And then I think to myself, how does the animal kingdom actually work, right? Like all these animals live together. I was having this conversation with my partner yesterday.

Then AI jumps in and then it's like all these things and it's just, some people are just like, whoa. And then I think to myself, how does the animal kingdom actually work, right? Like all these animals live together. I was having this conversation with my partner yesterday.

We were walking around our little lake and he said, do you think the birds talk to each other or do they talk to like the turtle or like the ducks? And I said, I don't know. I think they just acknowledge each other, right? Like they just kind of live in harmony. Like it's kind of there. I said, us humans could really take a beat on that because, you know, we should just live in harmony with it.

We were walking around our little lake and he said, do you think the birds talk to each other or do they talk to like the turtle or like the ducks? And I said, I don't know. I think they just acknowledge each other, right? Like they just kind of live in harmony. Like it's kind of there. I said, us humans could really take a beat on that because, you know, we should just live in harmony with it.

And that's, it kind of comes back down to that systems thinking aspect where, you know, everything's kind of in its holistic cycle and that's how the supply chain is. It's a cycle. Ultimately.

And that's, it kind of comes back down to that systems thinking aspect where, you know, everything's kind of in its holistic cycle and that's how the supply chain is. It's a cycle. Ultimately.

Or the data center that was inside the woman's room.

Or the data center that was inside the woman's room.

You know, I have at some point I should do some more stories because I got them on it going in and out of factories. And I'm sure you do too, Mark, when you've heard CFC things.

You know, I have at some point I should do some more stories because I got them on it going in and out of factories. And I'm sure you do too, Mark, when you've heard CFC things.

You know, I often say that a cyber attack is going to happen. It's just a matter of when, not if now. We're really that far down this line now. And staying resilient through it is what we're trying to do. Meaning you don't lose your business. You don't have to fire your people. You can keep things moving. You can keep the food safe.

You know, I often say that a cyber attack is going to happen. It's just a matter of when, not if now. We're really that far down this line now. And staying resilient through it is what we're trying to do. Meaning you don't lose your business. You don't have to fire your people. You can keep things moving. You can keep the food safe.

So really, in reality, is S-bombs are just trying to keep people resilient. That's just all it is. You know, as long as you know that you can deal with it. If you don't know, then you've got a problem. And nobody wants that like bill that shows up in the mail from something you probably did 10 years ago and totally forgot about.

So really, in reality, is S-bombs are just trying to keep people resilient. That's just all it is. You know, as long as you know that you can deal with it. If you don't know, then you've got a problem. And nobody wants that like bill that shows up in the mail from something you probably did 10 years ago and totally forgot about.

You know, it's like that kind of like, oh, that anxious feeling, that horribleness, that shame that hits you like a ton of bricks or something to that effect. I think people need to look at it like that, where we're mitigating the shame of you not knowing. And also we're making sure that when something does happen, that you can survive it. That's the important part.

You know, it's like that kind of like, oh, that anxious feeling, that horribleness, that shame that hits you like a ton of bricks or something to that effect. I think people need to look at it like that, where we're mitigating the shame of you not knowing. And also we're making sure that when something does happen, that you can survive it. That's the important part.