Kumail Nanjiani

That, giving yourself, people ask me, directors will ask me, what do you value in a director as an actor?

And I'm like, just the room to fail, the safety to fail is by far the most important environment that a director can create, is feeling okay with failure.

And all through Silicon Valley, it wasn't their fault, on me.

If I had a take that was bad, I was very hard on myself.

Now, if I try something and a take doesn't work, it's like, okay, great.

Let's do something else.

Let's go again.

Let's try something else.

So for me, the importance or the failure is necessary.

And I realized that in acting.

When I'm at my best, I'm failing more often than I'm not on set.

Like I'll do a take, you know, it takes you like two or three takes to like get one where you're like, all right, now I understand the scene.

Now let's try different things.

When you're trying different things,

More often than not, they don't work.

But when they do work, it can be really magical.

Well, we were together for a few years before we started working together, and we did go quite slowly in that I was hosting something and she was producing it.

So it wasn't, we were working together, but it wasn't creative work together, which to me is the most challenging.

And then we were hosting a podcast together.

And that's creative work, but not really.