Chapter 1: What motivates Kumail Nanjiani to return to stand-up comedy?
Kings Network. Welcome to South Beach Sessions back on the West Coast. I'm very excited about this one because Kumail Nanjiani is a man of much range. It's not just that he's an actor, he's a writer. And I think his first love is stand-up comedy. He's returning to stand-up. Night Thoughts is the special, Hulu, December 19th. He's in theaters now with Ella McKay.
I wonder which of these, you've shown extraordinary range and your journey is fascinating. So thanks for being with us. But which of these gives you the greatest joy? Because you're going back to comedy now and you didn't have to do that.
No. Which brings me the greatest joy? It changes day to day.
Chapter 2: How did Kumail's childhood experiences shape his career?
What I love about stand-up is it's really on you, your mistakes. It's you and the crowd. If something doesn't go right, it's completely your fault. When you're acting and stuff, truly when you're acting and stuff, you're at the mercy of other people. So you really have to trust the filmmaker that they make you look good.
The actual doing of it, I enjoy acting the most, I would say, because I find it to be challenging. And it's exciting because the goals are so varied. Whereas with stand-up, your goal really is to make people laugh, right? And it's not limited. There's so much you could do with stand-up. But with acting, it can be very cathartic. It can feel like therapy.
Stand-up you can do really well and just have it be outward facing. With acting, you can't do that. You have to sort of be inside your own self.
Chapter 3: What role does masculinity play in Kumail's personal journey?
But therapy how? Because you say inside your own self, but it's also the one that is most not you, right? I don't think the Welcome to Chippendales character that you played is very you. But parts of him are me.
The part of me that's like, if I could kill this guy and get away with it, wouldn't that be great? I mean, I certainly have a list of people that I'm like, if that person could die and it doesn't come back to me, I would not even consider not doing it. I would do it right now.
So with acting, I mean, you're playing different characters, but at least the way I do it, I wasn't trained or anything in acting. I mean, I've been taking acting classes now for about 12 years, but I didn't go to school for it. I have to use parts of myself. I have to put parts of myself into the character, and I have to take parts of the character and put them into myself. It is very personal.
No matter how different the character is on the surface, you really are using a lot of your own insights for it.
Well, I want to get to a bunch of this stuff because you're very vulnerable. You're sensitive.
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Chapter 4: How has therapy influenced Kumail's understanding of his emotions?
So let's dive into the deep end. Which are you more, sensitive or anxious? Sensitive.
I'm more sensitive. I think so. Although, you know, with anxiety for so long, it was just like what I thought being a person was. That is just sometimes it becomes like background noise. You don't even know. Like for me, the biggest... I've had journeys with both those things about myself. And I'm at different points with them. With anxiety, it took me a long time to even realize I was anxious.
And it was with my Y family. We've been together for years. And at one point I was like, you know, I'm a very laid back person.
Chapter 5: What challenges does Kumail face in expressing vulnerability?
She's like, what are you talking about? You're like the most anxious person I've ever met. And I realized like, oh, all this thinking and overthinking and what am I gonna do next? Or what did I do? Was that okay? Shouldn't have done that. Shouldn't have done that. The regret of doing something.
hurting myself for something I did that's already in the past, basically not being able to live in the moment. I realized that's just how I've been my entire life.
And sort of numb, right? Because I recognize this one, like numb to it. Because I always argued that I'm here and I didn't realize that I went lower than that because of whatever the suppression of feelings were or... eating my feelings or not understanding what my feelings were, speaking them more than feeling them.
100%, I wasn't even speaking my feelings.
Chapter 6: How does Kumail's view on success and failure evolve throughout his career?
I was just, it would push, push, push, come out as anger. So I've had, I would say until fairly recently, since I was a kid, I've had like anger issues since I was a kid. I remember being 10 and being so angry and that I didn't know what to do with it. The anger felt bigger than the world.
And that's a thing that my parents have known about me my entire life because everybody else outside, you know, thought I was a very nice kid. I was very good. I got good grades. I never got in trouble. Really, you know, I was really was like kind of a golden child. And I really was, you know, kind of still am to the family. I was like the prince of the family.
But what they got to see that nobody else got to see was this explosive anger that would happen every now and then. And all that came from suppressing feelings, but also not in some ways not liking myself. And I didn't realize that I didn't like myself until just a few years ago.
Chapter 7: What insights does Kumail share about working with his spouse, Emily?
And I think... When I sort of understood that, I was like, oh, a lot of these behaviors are now making sense. And sensitivity is tied to that, too. I knew I was always sensitive.
But then not liking that about myself, the fact that my feelings get hurt very easily, that I get sad very easily, and realizing that that's not how men are supposed to be and trying to push that down led to a lot of anger, led to a lot of self-hatred too because I didn't like that I was this sensitive.
You know when you're like in high school and stuff, you're supposed to be kind of like badass and you have this armor and nothing gets to you? Everything got to me. And it wasn't until I would say to my 40s where I was like, oh, I'm really, really sensitive. And it's OK to just that's just my like cross to bear. My feelings get hurt. Nothing's going to fix that. I have to accept it.
Why till 40, though? Because I buried myself in my work so much that I didn't realize any of that until I got to my 40s, too. Like there are a lot of parallels here for me.
Chapter 8: How does Kumail define joy in his work and personal life?
Well, at a certain point, it just became, part of it was the pandemic, just having to really sit with myself, just me and Emily. We took it very seriously because my wife's in a high-risk group, so for a year and a half, we did not leave the house. Just having to spend all that time, and we would separate for the day. So we'd wake up, we'd have breakfast together, we'd spend all day separately.
I would work, she would work, we'd write. I'd work out and we then would come together for dinner and watch a movie at night. So spending all that time with myself, I became very aware of like how things make me feel, how what my reaction to things is.
And I also actually do think acting did help with that, realizing like, oh, I have all this stuff I can tap into, which means that stuff is in there and I've been denying it.
How did you identify, though, as laid back when you're angry? Like, how does that self-assessment become so wrong? Are you in denial there?
Because I wasn't angry all the time. I would get angry every now and then. It was 100% denial. It was certainly denial. I just... Because on the surface, you know, in my 20s, I was smoking a lot of pot. I was doing stand-up. I was... late to my work all the time. So I was like, these are all like, to me, the signifiers of someone who's very chill and laid back.
It's just someone who smokes weed.
Yeah. Well, you know, it's like that, to me, the analogy is when a fan's moving really fast, it looks like it's not moving at all. That's how I sort of felt. Where on the surface, I was just like kind of chill, but inside was a tempest. And it was just all these conflicting cyclones of feelings seemingly canceling each other out, but they really weren't. Everything was spiking all at once.
I knew I had an anger issue and I hated myself for that too. I hated that I had this anger thing. I'd get very angry and my pattern had become with people I love, Getting really angry and then saying the thing you can't take back. And then that would be that would sort of break it. And then suddenly awful guilt about what I had said.
What a wonderful cycle that it was.
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