Kurt Mackey

Yeah. So how satisfied are you in your current professional developer role? Not happy at work. Complacent at work, happy at work. As someone who spends a lot of time on survey design, I do see a few potential issues. So they're asking about satisfaction, but then the responses are about happiness, which in satisfaction or happiness are really different constructs.

Yeah. So how satisfied are you in your current professional developer role? Not happy at work. Complacent at work, happy at work. As someone who spends a lot of time on survey design, I do see a few potential issues. So they're asking about satisfaction, but then the responses are about happiness, which in satisfaction or happiness are really different constructs.

that middle option is complacent. So it's not happy, happy, or complacent. But complacency, it's not really the perfect middle between not happy and happy. I think it captures the essence of in between not happy and happy, but it's not necessarily the perfect middle. So it's an interesting way that they've asked the question, because is it measuring job satisfaction or happiness?

that middle option is complacent. So it's not happy, happy, or complacent. But complacency, it's not really the perfect middle between not happy and happy. I think it captures the essence of in between not happy and happy, but it's not necessarily the perfect middle. So it's an interesting way that they've asked the question, because is it measuring job satisfaction or happiness?

Happiness, I think, is... really hard to actually measure. So I think that's why they worded it around satisfaction. You know, happiness, there's a lot of literature about how to actually measure happiness. There's entire fields where they've spent years trying to figure out how to measure happiness and what happiness is. And usually happiness is the sum of moments of feeling happy, right?

Happiness, I think, is... really hard to actually measure. So I think that's why they worded it around satisfaction. You know, happiness, there's a lot of literature about how to actually measure happiness. There's entire fields where they've spent years trying to figure out how to measure happiness and what happiness is. And usually happiness is the sum of moments of feeling happy, right?

Like how, like if you took the day and divided it up into however many minutes and Like in each minute or how many times throughout the day did you feel, have a feeling of happiness as opposed to non-happiness? And that's kind of how you get to how happy you are, right? Rather than a point in time reflection of happiness, which is pretty difficult. Yeah.

Like how, like if you took the day and divided it up into however many minutes and Like in each minute or how many times throughout the day did you feel, have a feeling of happiness as opposed to non-happiness? And that's kind of how you get to how happy you are, right? Rather than a point in time reflection of happiness, which is pretty difficult. Yeah.

Anyways, I'm nerding out here a little bit on the survey design.

Anyways, I'm nerding out here a little bit on the survey design.

I want to talk about this idea of how can people talk about these problems in terms of dollars?

I want to talk about this idea of how can people talk about these problems in terms of dollars?

The topic is, as the title implies, how to measure anything, and in particular, how to measure things that are seemingly unmeasurable. So when we talk about what is the dollar ROI or interest rate or cost of technical debt and poor developer experience, that's Just a few minutes ago, we were essentially calling that unmeasurable. Right.

The topic is, as the title implies, how to measure anything, and in particular, how to measure things that are seemingly unmeasurable. So when we talk about what is the dollar ROI or interest rate or cost of technical debt and poor developer experience, that's Just a few minutes ago, we were essentially calling that unmeasurable. Right.

In this book, they talk about how anything if you want to measure something in terms of dollars or cost. that you can really do that with anything. So as long as you, you take something intangible like technical debt or developer experience, and then you correlate it to something objective or something monetary, uh,

In this book, they talk about how anything if you want to measure something in terms of dollars or cost. that you can really do that with anything. So as long as you, you take something intangible like technical debt or developer experience, and then you correlate it to something objective or something monetary, uh,

So an example of this would be the DORA metrics in the DORA report, which I know you guys have followed. So what they essentially did is say- Give us a primer for those who aren't caught up on that.

So an example of this would be the DORA metrics in the DORA report, which I know you guys have followed. So what they essentially did is say- Give us a primer for those who aren't caught up on that.

So DORA is the DevOps Research and Assessment. But since, I want to say, 2013, maybe they've been publishing an annual report on the state of DevOps. And right now, we're talking about tech debt and developer experience. But eight years ago, people were talking about DevOps and, hey, what is the ROI of investing in DevOps? So it's the same problem. History repeats itself.

So DORA is the DevOps Research and Assessment. But since, I want to say, 2013, maybe they've been publishing an annual report on the state of DevOps. And right now, we're talking about tech debt and developer experience. But eight years ago, people were talking about DevOps and, hey, what is the ROI of investing in DevOps? So it's the same problem. History repeats itself.