Kyle

And I have to thank you for coming on.

It was a blast talking to you.

I could have gone on for a lot longer.

Yeah.

So if you tune in to Speak Seductively, you're going to hear me talking to

other erotic authors, people who are in the lifestyle.

Usually, I like to have couples on who talk about how they got involved in the lifestyle.

We'll have nudists on.

We'll have single swingers on talking about being single in the lifestyle.

So we've been married about 16 years now.

Okay, so we had both, we'd known each other for years.

We'd both been in shitty relationships before then.

Won't get into all of that, but we got together and we basically decided we weren't going to bullshit each other and play passive aggressive stuff.

So we started talking about

Likes, dislikes, and all that, but I think we got into this subject because Lily said when she was in college, she had done some nude modeling, and that freaks out a lot of guys when she was dating them, and her ex kind of treated her like shit when he found out, so she told me almost from the get-go, well...

I've always been into amateur photography and wanted to do more with that.

So it didn't freak me out at all.

It got us starting to talk about

Ethical non monogamy.

And, you know, is that is that where we want to be as a couple?