Kyle Harper

Like what – you said it takes like 10 steps to figure out how to process this one particular kind of food, but I'm guessing like –

It is just really hard to figure out infectious disease.

It's a really, really steep mountain.

And once you get like up to a certain plateau, then the discoveries like come really, really fast.

They become systematic and they become more fundamental.

But it was really hard to get there.

You know, not that many societies –

really scaled it, not even within the societies that did.

It was just a handful of people at first, but they did get there.

Yeah, it's such a – it's a tricky problem because – start with the third plague pandemic in the late 19th century.

Yeah.

We know that that's in India.

Yeah.

And India is a big part of its history.

It's in fact where the plague Bacillus is discovered by Alexander Yersin.

It's called Yersinia pestis.

In his honor, a Japanese scientist finds it exactly the same time.

It gets left out of the nomenclature.

The worst pathogen ever.

Immortality.