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Kyle Harper

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Like we don't have a great explanation of that because โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

India is connected to the Central Asian world where the plague is endemic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

There's plenty of trade.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

It would have plenty of chance to move to the subcontinent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

So we don't understand that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And then if you go back even further โ€“ that's the Black Death.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

You go back even further to the late antique period โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

We โ€“ it's like a total mystery and the Indian sources from the โ€“ even the 5th and the 6th century are not great.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

They're hard to use.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

This is totally outside my language abilities.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

They require totally different expertise.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

I've worked with some people who think that they're like โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

oblique references that may be interpreted as epidemic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

But one of the interesting things is we actually think that the plague moves through India to get to Rome.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

This is not definite, but the plagues

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

In enzootic, it's like natural animal reservoir, is the Tian Shan Mountains where China, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan meet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And we can actually, in the scheme of things, kind of identify a pretty small region where the pandemic lineage comes from.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And we know that it doesn't go overland.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

So it's not like the Black Death, which goes across the steppe.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

The Mongol trade networks, military networks carry it.