Kyle Risdahl

Are all your trainees, I mean, do they get out the gate and they've got jobs or what's the deal with that?

Yeah, we should say that the ramp was TSMC and Intel building huge plants out there.

It was a year and a half ago.

I imagine there's still probably some work because those things are the biggest buildings I've ever seen.

But that demand is drawing down, I guess.

Huh.

We were out in the TSMC parking lot until security chased us away.

And one of the things we noticed was license – yeah, that's a whole different story.

License plates on the cars from all over the country.

Are you still having people come to the Phoenix area and look you guys up and say –

listen, get me into these trades because it's a good deal?

We should say, you know, they do get jobs.

But the thing that struck me when we were there and we talked, we pulled a couple of people out of class, actually, and I think you were there for these interviews.

And we talked to them about what their days were like.

And they worked full time sort of on the job and then came to you all for more training and supplemental work in the evening.

The folks who were doing this are, I mean, these are like 16, 18 hour days.

This is a little sideways, but roll with me on this one.

Since you are sort of in the belly of the beast, what are your thoughts on organized labor in this economy right now?

Not for nothing, that economist, because I listen to that podcast because I'm a fan of Siren, was Catherine Ann Edwards, who we had on the program like three days ago.

So I know her.