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Kyler Brown

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The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I had one local team where it was a golf team and about 30% of their athletes had a stress fracture in their lumbar spine. Oh my, what? Yeah, it was absurd. How is the strength coach not getting fired? So I reached out to the head coach and the strength coach and to give all these people a little bit of a pass, they're not really equipped because they're managing 200 kids.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I had one local team where it was a golf team and about 30% of their athletes had a stress fracture in their lumbar spine. Oh my, what? Yeah, it was absurd. How is the strength coach not getting fired? So I reached out to the head coach and the strength coach and to give all these people a little bit of a pass, they're not really equipped because they're managing 200 kids.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I think it's just a bad setup. You have 200 athletes that you're supposedly managing a program for and you're not watching technique. Whether or not you know what you're talking about, it's a whole nother argument. But like the idea of, okay, we're going to do a high performance on a 14 year old and put strength on them, but no one's watching technique or teaching them the foundations of lifting.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I think it's just a bad setup. You have 200 athletes that you're supposedly managing a program for and you're not watching technique. Whether or not you know what you're talking about, it's a whole nother argument. But like the idea of, okay, we're going to do a high performance on a 14 year old and put strength on them, but no one's watching technique or teaching them the foundations of lifting.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

While at the same time, they're 14, we should be making them quick, athletic, and coordinated first. Because that's a platform you want to build an athlete on. You don't want to make a kid really slow, but really strong when they're 15. It's really hard to train speed as you get older.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

While at the same time, they're 14, we should be making them quick, athletic, and coordinated first. Because that's a platform you want to build an athlete on. You don't want to make a kid really slow, but really strong when they're 15. It's really hard to train speed as you get older.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We did a ton of work. The literature and the science is out there to a degree for you stack things on top of themselves. So you start with isometrics, you progress people to more explosive or compound movements. So let's assume that I don't have any injury risks at all. And you would determine that based on just my history? No, and testing. History, testing, demographic risk.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We did a ton of work. The literature and the science is out there to a degree for you stack things on top of themselves. So you start with isometrics, you progress people to more explosive or compound movements. So let's assume that I don't have any injury risks at all. And you would determine that based on just my history? No, and testing. History, testing, demographic risk.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

There's a lot of variables we look into for having concern about musculoskeletal injury. That's number one. But yeah, every person is different that way. And we've had people come in who've had multiple surgeries and injuries, and then we've had other people come in who they're high risk for injury, but overall, they're a pretty good package to work with.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

There's a lot of variables we look into for having concern about musculoskeletal injury. That's number one. But yeah, every person is different that way. And we've had people come in who've had multiple surgeries and injuries, and then we've had other people come in who they're high risk for injury, but overall, they're a pretty good package to work with.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

There's not a lot of medical concern, if you will. So ignoring all the medical side of it, I really like following the principle that the exercise is the test because we basically look at everything about four to five different ways. But if I watch someone do, let's say a wall squat.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

There's not a lot of medical concern, if you will. So ignoring all the medical side of it, I really like following the principle that the exercise is the test because we basically look at everything about four to five different ways. But if I watch someone do, let's say a wall squat.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

It's isometric. isometric load. It's what we all used to do in like high school practices where it burns your quads and your patellar tendons. And we can even set you up to where you're in the right position. So that's going to tell us a comfort with the position.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

It's isometric. isometric load. It's what we all used to do in like high school practices where it burns your quads and your patellar tendons. And we can even set you up to where you're in the right position. So that's going to tell us a comfort with the position.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Every metric we have has a qualitative and a quantitative associate. So the quantitative, we have minimums. It's either time or percentages of body weights for every test or distances, like you mentioned on the broad jump. But then there's also like, how does it look? And then the how it looks one is the vague part of the movement world.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Every metric we have has a qualitative and a quantitative associate. So the quantitative, we have minimums. It's either time or percentages of body weights for every test or distances, like you mentioned on the broad jump. But then there's also like, how does it look? And then the how it looks one is the vague part of the movement world.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So you're going to have your coach and myself both looking at it. But then we have other ways where we're confirming that with our motion capture machines, with our force plates, with our videos that analyze the movement. So there's a lot of ways to confirm. You can also see these things cross over.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So you're going to have your coach and myself both looking at it. But then we have other ways where we're confirming that with our motion capture machines, with our force plates, with our videos that analyze the movement. So there's a lot of ways to confirm. You can also see these things cross over.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So how does someone do on the double leg versus single leg gives us a really nice window to, okay, where's the lack? Great example, two leg, really strong, they're solid. We put them on single leg and they're abnormally less functional and weak and don't have the range. So I'm immediately thinking, okay, there's a balance control issue here.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So how does someone do on the double leg versus single leg gives us a really nice window to, okay, where's the lack? Great example, two leg, really strong, they're solid. We put them on single leg and they're abnormally less functional and weak and don't have the range. So I'm immediately thinking, okay, there's a balance control issue here.