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Kyler Brown

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The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We rule out the scary medical stuff and then we try some exercise. And we were able to get a lot of results for these athletes and they were about to tee off in two hours and compete. So we've taken that model and when we were designing the assessments at 10 Squared, one of the biggest themes was we need enough time to know as much as we can.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We rule out the scary medical stuff and then we try some exercise. And we were able to get a lot of results for these athletes and they were about to tee off in two hours and compete. So we've taken that model and when we were designing the assessments at 10 Squared, one of the biggest themes was we need enough time to know as much as we can.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

A lot of people want it to be faster, but we're like, that initial step needs to be so in-depth that we are certain about all the factors of how you move and where you're strong and things like that. When I have that certainty and I'm not flying blind and someone calls me and says, you know what? My knee's really sore after doing these exercises.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

A lot of people want it to be faster, but we're like, that initial step needs to be so in-depth that we are certain about all the factors of how you move and where you're strong and things like that. When I have that certainty and I'm not flying blind and someone calls me and says, you know what? My knee's really sore after doing these exercises.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We either hop on a Zoom and just talk real quick, and I can actually test them on Zoom because the exercise is the test. So many people think they need a doctor to do like a Lachman's test and pull on their leg. The story, their profile, and then how they respond to the exercise, that is the test. And so we can program exercises really effectively in a remote way to probe the fence or test it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We either hop on a Zoom and just talk real quick, and I can actually test them on Zoom because the exercise is the test. So many people think they need a doctor to do like a Lachman's test and pull on their leg. The story, their profile, and then how they respond to the exercise, that is the test. And so we can program exercises really effectively in a remote way to probe the fence or test it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

And if it responds the right way, we definitely can fix it quickly. I had a client this week, his shoulder was bugging him. We did a Zoom call, took about 20 minutes. We have our library at 10 squared. I fired him off a few exercises. He messaged me. He's like, feels a lot better. He didn't have to go to a doctor. He didn't have to go anywhere.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

And if it responds the right way, we definitely can fix it quickly. I had a client this week, his shoulder was bugging him. We did a Zoom call, took about 20 minutes. We have our library at 10 squared. I fired him off a few exercises. He messaged me. He's like, feels a lot better. He didn't have to go to a doctor. He didn't have to go anywhere.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Now, obviously, if the story was different and I was worried medically, I'd concierge that in the sense of I'd find him someone local and refer out. But if I'm not worried medically and we think it can respond to load, we're going to load it. And a lot of times people are shocked.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Now, obviously, if the story was different and I was worried medically, I'd concierge that in the sense of I'd find him someone local and refer out. But if I'm not worried medically and we think it can respond to load, we're going to load it. And a lot of times people are shocked.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

that we can make their neck tension go away with an exercise in the same way that if they traditionally got a massage or something, they'd get that relief. It has to do with what your body does when things are off. And if you load it, it'll actually respond more because your nervous system is involved as well.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

that we can make their neck tension go away with an exercise in the same way that if they traditionally got a massage or something, they'd get that relief. It has to do with what your body does when things are off. And if you load it, it'll actually respond more because your nervous system is involved as well.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Two things. One thing in your story, it really speaks to how pain is inhibitory. When your brain is perceiving that threat and that pain, it goes into preservation mode where it's like, look, I'm not going to have you run the fastest four to your life because I don't trust all these movements. I'm trying to figure this out.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Two things. One thing in your story, it really speaks to how pain is inhibitory. When your brain is perceiving that threat and that pain, it goes into preservation mode where it's like, look, I'm not going to have you run the fastest four to your life because I don't trust all these movements. I'm trying to figure this out.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

My analogy is like that hand on the buzzer with Family Feud, where the brain, like whenever it feels threat, it's like, I'm going to hit this buzzer and I'm going to send you a pain signal. Doesn't mean you're damaged. It's just like, I'm hovering. And if you're really stressed or it's a really high level pain, it's like, I'm going to do it for sign of trouble.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

My analogy is like that hand on the buzzer with Family Feud, where the brain, like whenever it feels threat, it's like, I'm going to hit this buzzer and I'm going to send you a pain signal. Doesn't mean you're damaged. It's just like, I'm hovering. And if you're really stressed or it's a really high level pain, it's like, I'm going to do it for sign of trouble.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So number one, it just really explains your story is that effect. But then it's like, okay, how do we get the brain to take the hand off the buzzer? What loads can we introduce to make these muscles one term in the musculoskeletal world's reciprocal inhibition? So if I'm going to contract my bicep like crazy, my tricep almost has to eventually get enough signals where it can't fire.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So number one, it just really explains your story is that effect. But then it's like, okay, how do we get the brain to take the hand off the buzzer? What loads can we introduce to make these muscles one term in the musculoskeletal world's reciprocal inhibition? So if I'm going to contract my bicep like crazy, my tricep almost has to eventually get enough signals where it can't fire.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Your brain might be trying to fire it and it's got this co-contraction going on and there's that protection going on. But the more stimulus you give that bicep, eventually that tricep has to let go. So what he was doing is he was putting you in very specific positions to where you had to load something where neurologically your brain says, I'm going to turn this other thing off.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Your brain might be trying to fire it and it's got this co-contraction going on and there's that protection going on. But the more stimulus you give that bicep, eventually that tricep has to let go. So what he was doing is he was putting you in very specific positions to where you had to load something where neurologically your brain says, I'm going to turn this other thing off.