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Kylie Robison

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

Mira Marotti, their CTO, is reportedly making her own company. And then another VP of research there might also be making their own company. And that's just like in the last month. So you have to compete for money. You have to compete for talent. You have to compete for compute to a lesser extent. But money and talent are really where it's at right now. And safety is not like the sexiest pitch.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

Mira Marotti, their CTO, is reportedly making her own company. And then another VP of research there might also be making their own company. And that's just like in the last month. So you have to compete for money. You have to compete for talent. You have to compete for compute to a lesser extent. But money and talent are really where it's at right now. And safety is not like the sexiest pitch.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

I do believe... that these AI executives believe what they're saying, that they're going to build utopia. I think why Dario released his blog at the time that he did, which was out of step for Anthropic, he says at the top, we don't usually do this. I think it does have a lot to do with competition and market pressures and funding.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

I do believe... that these AI executives believe what they're saying, that they're going to build utopia. I think why Dario released his blog at the time that he did, which was out of step for Anthropic, he says at the top, we don't usually do this. I think it does have a lot to do with competition and market pressures and funding.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

I do believe... that these AI executives believe what they're saying, that they're going to build utopia. I think why Dario released his blog at the time that he did, which was out of step for Anthropic, he says at the top, we don't usually do this. I think it does have a lot to do with competition and market pressures and funding.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

That's funny because I wrote about this. I said, OpenAI is no longer a research lab. It is a tech company like everyone else. And I had researchers reach out to me and disagree. My take is that it's like academics versus like a product manager at Meta. they're extremely different people.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

That's funny because I wrote about this. I said, OpenAI is no longer a research lab. It is a tech company like everyone else. And I had researchers reach out to me and disagree. My take is that it's like academics versus like a product manager at Meta. they're extremely different people.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

That's funny because I wrote about this. I said, OpenAI is no longer a research lab. It is a tech company like everyone else. And I had researchers reach out to me and disagree. My take is that it's like academics versus like a product manager at Meta. they're extremely different people.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

So a company that was started to do deep research on AI filled with a lot of academics and incredibly smart people who just wanted to do that research, they're not exactly looking to work fast, break things, build products. That's not exactly why a lot of them went there. And they might deem the market pressures to build these products on these powerful models, they might deem that as unsafe.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

So a company that was started to do deep research on AI filled with a lot of academics and incredibly smart people who just wanted to do that research, they're not exactly looking to work fast, break things, build products. That's not exactly why a lot of them went there. And they might deem the market pressures to build these products on these powerful models, they might deem that as unsafe.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

So a company that was started to do deep research on AI filled with a lot of academics and incredibly smart people who just wanted to do that research, they're not exactly looking to work fast, break things, build products. That's not exactly why a lot of them went there. And they might deem the market pressures to build these products on these powerful models, they might deem that as unsafe.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

It is just a philosophical debate. It is that tribalism every day. And some people are like, I don't care. I think it's really cool that we can build products for everyone to use on these LLMs that we have spent millions of dollars and so much time building. So I think the people who are leaving because they deem OpenAI not safe are It's a debate.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

It is just a philosophical debate. It is that tribalism every day. And some people are like, I don't care. I think it's really cool that we can build products for everyone to use on these LLMs that we have spent millions of dollars and so much time building. So I think the people who are leaving because they deem OpenAI not safe are It's a debate.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

It is just a philosophical debate. It is that tribalism every day. And some people are like, I don't care. I think it's really cool that we can build products for everyone to use on these LLMs that we have spent millions of dollars and so much time building. So I think the people who are leaving because they deem OpenAI not safe are It's a debate.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

And unfortunately, OpenAI is not very transparent in their processes. So it's hard to deem from an outsider's point of view. We have to rely on these people leaving and saying it's not safe.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

And unfortunately, OpenAI is not very transparent in their processes. So it's hard to deem from an outsider's point of view. We have to rely on these people leaving and saying it's not safe.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

And unfortunately, OpenAI is not very transparent in their processes. So it's hard to deem from an outsider's point of view. We have to rely on these people leaving and saying it's not safe.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

There's a whole lot of benchmarks. And I got to write an article about reward hacking, which was my favorite thing, which basically the AI lying to you. Really fun stuff. So yeah, they do a whole bunch of benchmarks. They do a whole bunch of safety tests. My opinion here, what I'm gleaning from this is that safety is moving slow and thoughtfully versus moving fast to launch things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

There's a whole lot of benchmarks. And I got to write an article about reward hacking, which was my favorite thing, which basically the AI lying to you. Really fun stuff. So yeah, they do a whole bunch of benchmarks. They do a whole bunch of safety tests. My opinion here, what I'm gleaning from this is that safety is moving slow and thoughtfully versus moving fast to launch things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI arms race to build digital god

There's a whole lot of benchmarks. And I got to write an article about reward hacking, which was my favorite thing, which basically the AI lying to you. Really fun stuff. So yeah, they do a whole bunch of benchmarks. They do a whole bunch of safety tests. My opinion here, what I'm gleaning from this is that safety is moving slow and thoughtfully versus moving fast to launch things.