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L. Rudolph L

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159 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

What happens when small groups of smart people convince themselves they have discovered truth so important that normal constraints no longer apply?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

End quote.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Stavroginism.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

The human orthogonality thesis.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Stavrogin is a character for who moral considerations have become a parlor game.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

He can analyze everything and follow the threads of moral logic, but is not moved or compelled by them at a level beyond curiosity.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

The Stavrogin type can contemplate human extinction as calmly as they contemplate next quarter's revenue projections.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

This is not because they have thought more deeply about the question.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

It is because they lack the normal human response to existential horror.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Their equanimity is not wisdom.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

It is damage.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

They have looked at the abyss so long that they no longer see it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Their equanimity is not strength.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

It is the absence of appropriate emotional response.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

End quote.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Kirillovan reasoning.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Reasoning to suicide.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Closely related is Keilorv.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Whereas Stavrogin is the detached curious observer to long chains of off-the-rails moral reasoning, Kiyilov is the true believer.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Yudkowsky has a useful concept he calls the bottom line, the idea that in any motivated reasoning process, the conclusion is written first and the arguments are found afterward.