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L. Rudolph L

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159 total appearances

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

But there is an opposite failure mode that Yudkowsky's framework does not adequately address.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

The person who follows arguments wherever they lead without any check on whether the conclusions make sense.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

This person is not engaging in motivated reasoning.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

They are engaging in unmotivated reasoning, deduction without sanity checks.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Kirlorv is the prototype.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Kiyolov has arrived at the conclusion that suicide is the ultimate act of human freedom, the assertion of human will against the universe that created it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

He plans to kill himself as a kind of metaphysical demonstration, and he has agreed to leave a suicide note taking responsibility for crimes committed by Pyotr Stepanovich's revolutionary cell.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

End quote.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

The author compares Kiyolov to people who accept Pascal's wager type EV calculations about positive singularities.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

A better example might be the successionists, some of who want humanity to collectively commit suicide as the ultimate act of human moral concern towards future AIs.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Shigalievism.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Shigalyov rises to present his system for organizing society.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

I have become entangled in my own data, he begins, and my conclusion directly contradicts the original idea from which I started.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Starting from unlimited freedom, I end with unlimited despotism.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

I will add, however, that apart from my solution of the social formula, there is no other.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

One character asks whether this is not simply a fantasy.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Shigalyov replies that it is the inevitable conclusion of any serious attempt to organize society rationally.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

All other solutions are impossible because they require human nature to be other than it is.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

Only by eliminating freedom for the many can freedom be preserved for the few, and only the few are capable of handling freedom without destroying themselves and others.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"The Possessed Machines (summary)" by L Rudolf L

the company reacts with fascination, horror, and a certain amount of admiration.