Lachlan Waugh

I think he can still perform well, and we've seen in Super Rugby he can have one really good game out of maybe four or five, and the other three or four of those games are not bad, but just not at the level that we once saw from Baden Barrett.

And it's not two fat guys chasing the Colonel.

Around town you saw heaps of Chiefs, Crusaders, Hurricanes, Highlanders jerseys.

Not as any Blues ones, but I don't think Blues fans travel too well.

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We've always produced talent.

I think the core issue that has been the case over the last how many years, seven, eight, nine years now, is the rest of the world has gotten a lot better.

And we've maybe gotten a smidge worse, but we're not a huge amount worse, and we've got a lot of talent.

Can you have your captain come off the bench?

I'm not saying Ardy will.

I'm not saying he will.

Ardy starts, I think, in everyone's team.

But even if he comes off the bench.

I remember Arsenal did this for a long time with Thomas Vermaelen.

I think that was his name.

Vermeulen?

Vermaelen?

No, Vermaelen.

Arsenal.