Landon Ray

And that kind of like limped along.

And then we launched another version in 2009.

And that's when things exploded.

Hold on.

No, let's just get that right because it was more painful than that.

It was 2004, to be fair.

That's when I started going to work every day again.

And it was not until March, April of 2009 that it really started going.

So it was five years of abject...

Oh, hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And that's if you don't count the fact that I didn't take a salary for all those years.

So, you know, because I had savings, so I was able to do that.

But, you know, we started small.

It was me and two guys that I hired right out of college.

And so it was really just like,

Oh, we're, you know, 10,000 ish.

Um, and, uh, a hundred employees and, you know, in the mid teens in terms of revenue and, um, you know, we, yeah, we've just exploded.

We've made the Inc 500 four years in a row.

Congratulations.

And, uh, yeah, it's, it's, uh, I mean, we've done the whole thing, um, with very little, uh, investment.