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Larry Cheng

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
417 total appearances

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Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

Like tell it after the fact.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And so that's a really a trust-building posture that I think my best CEOs adopt.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

Sure.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

So for those who don't know, Chewy is a pet food e-commerce company.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And we invested in the company in 2013.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

We found the company, we have analysts, folks recently out of college who were calling companies and one of the analysts called Chewy and I hopped on a call with them and they said they were trying to sell pet food online.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

If you don't know, back in the dot-com era, the biggest bust of all the dot-com companies in 2000 was this company called Pets.com.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

It had a sock puppet as its kind of mascot, and it was just a huge debacle of, like, how can you send 50-pound bags of dog food over the mail and make any money?

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

Like, it's stupid.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And that persisted in the venture and growth equity mindset.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

So I spent some time meeting with them.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And what I realized is that the world had kind of changed.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And at the highest level, this is a great area to invest, and it's sort of contrarian, is look for big failures.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

let time pass and see if those models might work today.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And what had changed with Chewy is, number one, there's this whole humanization of pets movement, where people wanted to buy organic, grass-fed, like, all the best stuff, whereas we used to buy, like, Purina kibble in the grocery store, and we don't do that anymore.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

So, basically, that bag of dog food got more expensive, which made it more affordable to ship.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And then just the proliferation of online shoppers, more pets, like more than half of households have pets.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And so the market just got a lot bigger for online pet food e-commerce.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

And I remember literally this is what happened.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
200 Rejections to a Billion-Dollar Exit: Larry Cheng on Resilience and Growth

I was in a PetSmart and I was getting pet food for my dog and I had met with Chewy.