Larry O'Gorman

But it was amazing though, after walking through a crowd of maybe 5,000, 6,000 people and you just happened to meet your sister, the same girl that just a couple of weeks before that, that you walked out on her wedding day to go training with the boys.

It worked out well in the end.

But you were just saying, sorry, about Clare winning in 95.

I know now that Liam Griffin and I had a good chat with Gerlach Nairn.

I more or less said to him, what did it take for you to win the All-Ireland?

They had a good meeting among themselves because, as I said, when we went back to Hotel Rosslier, sorry, Furry Carrick Hotel, the following week for this new sit-down meeting and the year going forward, when I looked at the chartboard, we all looked at each other naturally.

I was about to training.

The Kilkenny match, the Dublin match, he kept on flicking these pages over and over where we're going to go.

And I said, dude, how is he able to think so far in advance?

It was this thing that he was trying to get into our head that we're well able, we're well

able to do this if we believe in ourselves and of course Niamh Fitzpatrick was the sports psychologist so she played a massive part in terms of getting us focused getting us right for every game before we went out you know not to look on the downside of losing but on the upside of winning and winning creates good habits So this day 30 years ago as I said so what time is it?

Well, sitting down at the meetings, we would have had training and we would have had meetings and Liam Griffin and the boys would have went over and over and over again the possibility of winning everything.

I don't think losing really came into it too much because...

as I said, Niamh Fitzpatrick, the sports psychologist, would say.

It's all about believing in winning.

The more you believe in winning, the less you'll think about losing.

And that's what was getting inside of our heads.

We were training.

The training was going well.

It was very positive.