Larry Sanger

All I know is that there are some figures who have had avowedly weird religious beliefs and connections with the Freemasons, for example, and other secret societies, which –

Separately, we learn, have a lot of really strange rituals and so forth, right?

So they were involved in that.

Why would they be involved with that?

Did that make any difference in their opinion?

Who knows?

I...

I mean, we've all heard testimony, anyone who has studied this stuff or at least watched very many videos on YouTube by now.

We have heard that or heard...

testimony from people who claim to have been, you know, close associates with this person or that person.

And it's like, so-and-so is a witch.

I know because, you know, I saw her sacrifice a baby or whatever.

So I wouldn't rule that out.

I think

The case for all such things is cumulative, I guess.

And we don't... I mean, necessarily, we don't have any smoking gun evidence.

If we had smoking gun evidence, then it would be...

known publicly and being known publicly, it would be a massive scandal for whoever was involved.

And then they would be like one of the monsters of history.

So maybe the monsters of history are just the ones that got caught or who fell afoul of the authorities or whatever.