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Larry Sanger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
651 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

This deity then was sort of pressed into service and made the only God, the creator God.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

But it took a long time for this process to happen.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Whereas if you actually ask believing Christians and Jews and even Muslims, they will tell you that, no, in fact, God gave his name to Moses.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And his name was at least used in the book of Genesis, and it's used all throughout the Torah, the first five books of the Bible.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And these, again, on a traditional confessional view, were written by Moses, who actually talked to God.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And so that's where we got the name, the Tetragrammaton, as you say, and not this way.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

I see.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

So this just tells one view and simply ignores the religious view.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Now, I'm not saying that the religious view is correct and that it should be stated in wiki voice, but this should not be stated in wiki voice.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

This...

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

This view that's stated here should be in the second or third paragraph and attributed to its owners.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Yeah.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And I'll tell you, this article is not totally devoid of value because it does tell you what people like that think.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Right.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Right.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

But the fact that it only tells you that means that it's biased in favor of what they think.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Right, right.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

So the second thesis then, enable competing articles, would say, okay, look, if Wikipedia is set on having that particular article, right, then you should declare that this is according to the GASP framework, right, and other frameworks should be permitted, right?

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And therefore, you know, a Christian framework, perhaps it would be a Catholic framework and a Protestant framework.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Who knows exactly where the lines will be drawn there and whether people will be able to just, you know, create their own frameworks willy nilly or whatever.