Latif Nasser

I want help.

How many people do you remember?

If I had to guess, it was maybe around 80 people or so.

That's a ton of people.

Yeah.

That's John Tracy.

He was a military lawyer in Iraq in 2003.

And before him, Marla Keenan.

I'm managing director of Center for Civilians in Conflict.

So when they came with a complaint, what sort, is it like you ran over my chicken or you knocked out my window?

No, no, no, no.

Much more serious.

I mean, I think of cluster bombs.

During the Shock and Awe campaign, one of the types of bombs that we were using or the Air Force was using were what they call cluster munitions.

Basically, John says Air Force planes would fly over these targets and drop hundreds and hundreds of these tiny little bombs smaller than a Coke can.

And a lot of them would land in maybe a parking lot or a field and they wouldn't explode.

So on a number of occasions, you'd have mostly it was kids, right?

Because the kids would

see it and... They didn't know any better.

It would just run over and kick it.