Latif Nasser

And then that's when it would explode.

That's when it would detonate.

Right.

I had a lot of those.

Close to a dozen.

And so that was a difficult one because, well...

It's combat because the Air Force dropped it because they were bombing the city.

But at the same time, days, weeks, even months have gone by, and this thing is just sitting in the ground.

Couldn't we say it's not combat?

And this was a real question that John had to ask his boss, and then his boss asked his boss.

They eventually sent the question up to the Army Claims Service, and they said, no, it's combat.

Meaning they're not going to pay.

basically like we are in an armed conflict and this was an unfortunate incident, but an incident that happened during a lawful combat operation and therefore we're sorry.

And that's basically it.

So I said no to a lot of people.

And so like in World War I with General Pershing, military officers, they started lobbying their bosses for an expanded system so they could start making more payments.

And eventually the military does expand it.

In fact, I talked to one of the military's top lawyers.

Brigadier General Richard C. Gross.

I go by Rich.