Laura Dowling

You know, bad behaviour.

Are there any times where you can be involved and then kind of like step back?

Okay.

Where he's... She's exhausted.

I invited... I only ever played it so they could entertain themselves while I flanked out on the couch.

So you and your husband can't talk to each other when he's there, unless he's involved in the conversation.

And it's about him.

And knows... They understand.

Because you know the way sometimes maybe people of an older generation might just not understand it.

Yeah, so...

But also the fact that you can't even communicate with your husband without him going like.

Is it anything about him?

There's bits of him.

But not about this that we've just discussed?

So tell me about your own anxiety experience.

I did ask you whether or not you had been diagnosed with autism purely from the point of view that obviously your son has been diagnosed.

You've experienced anxiety for many, many years.

So you've been on this journey.

You wrote a book 10 years ago and now you've, what was that book called?

And literally turned it on and I was about war and death and Trump and misery.