Laura Dowling

And maybe there's a recession on the horizon.

And I had to turn it off because I'm a very upbeat, happy person in general.

Like I just that's just my nature.

But I literally could feel my chest tightening.

Because I said, look at this, the world is just seems so horrific.

And like you say, we're being bombarded with misery.

Yeah.

So I can see and I can understand how someone who may be predisposed to anxiety is just it's so heightened.

Were you an anxious child?

You're really good at explaining this.

Thank you.

I know you talk about it a lot, but you're very good at explaining the

the physical impact that it has.

Because some people can't articulate anxiety the way you are articulating it, but they feel it the way you're describing it.

When did you eventually go to the doctor and get diagnosed then with anxiety and medicated?

I didn't get diagnosed with anxiety.

But I was, it was either... And did you ever self-medicate with alcohol or cannabis or anything like that?

Well, yeah, no, but like, so some people do.

Yeah.

And some people are afraid because they're afraid of what it might do.