Laura Kuenssberg

And the discipline and the discipline that they had as a unit.

And, you know, that is the thing, frankly, that critics of Nicola Sturgeon find probably hardest to believe, is that she was somebody who was incredibly disciplined, incredibly effective, incredibly politically gripped.

And yet when it came to the running of the party, that does not appear for them to have been the case.

And that really is at the sort of heart of all of this for this sort of Scottish political establishment, I suppose.

There's all these amazing elements to this story.

There's the personal story.

There's the human story.

There's the public going, you can get salt and pepper grinders for three grand.

What?

!

I mean, who knew that they even existed?

And there's so much that's weird.

She says in our longer interview, bought all these watches.

Actually, he never even wore a watch.

So where were the watches?

I mean, where's the onesie?

All of this stuff is just kind of grimly fascinating.

Well, who knows?

The loo roll, luxury loo roll, apparently, and lots and lots of it.

And that's where I think a lot of people listening this morning will think that she was vulnerable because there was a pattern of people trying to raise concern about the finances over a fair period of time who were accused of being conspiracy theorists, who were accused of running a dirty tricks campaign against the leadership.