Laura

So we haven't spoken to her five years-ish.

And I don't want my son to interact with her until she's ready.

So at this point, he's way too young to really understand that she's not ready.

So I'm kind of like hedging that line.

But if he's 15 and he's like, I want to meet her, I'm going to be like, okay, we can reach out to her and see how she feels about that.

Right.

and again it's her decision you can't force yourself upon her but if you want to talk to her at that point go ahead yeah and if she calls us tomorrow and says i want to talk to my son and be like okay and then we'll chat we'll do facetime we'll go see her i don't know i'm totally fine with them having some kind of relationship because

It is.

It is a relationship that could potentially exist.

And I don't mind that it exists.

Like our son is very much aware that we are his parents and that we raised him and that he lives with us and that we love him.

But you've got this other family out there that may want to connect with you someday.

So we do right away when this one with my son was successful and we were bringing him home, we're like, no, we can't go through this again.

Because there's no guarantee.

Like we could go through five more failures.

And then it just takes a toll on you every single time because you prepare yourself for the worst, but then the worst happens.

It's draining.

And it's draining.

And it's just so much, it's a lot of money.

It's a lot of time.