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Lauren Feiner

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

In the Google search case, that was a case about essentially Google's contracts with browser makers and phone makers that would make Google search the default on their platforms. Ultimately, the judge in that case ruled that Google did illegally monopolize the search market and that while it's true that consumers could change the defaults on these browsers or phones, that it was the

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

In the Google search case, that was a case about essentially Google's contracts with browser makers and phone makers that would make Google search the default on their platforms. Ultimately, the judge in that case ruled that Google did illegally monopolize the search market and that while it's true that consumers could change the defaults on these browsers or phones, that it was the

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

In the Google search case, that was a case about essentially Google's contracts with browser makers and phone makers that would make Google search the default on their platforms. Ultimately, the judge in that case ruled that Google did illegally monopolize the search market and that while it's true that consumers could change the defaults on these browsers or phones, that it was the

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

clear to the judge that Google intended to illegally monopolize this market and box out competitors from being able to really gain a foothold in this space. So that's a case that's currently in the remedies phase. So they're figuring out What's the government going to ask for in order to solve this harm that the judge found in this case? The arguments in these cases, they're pretty different.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

clear to the judge that Google intended to illegally monopolize this market and box out competitors from being able to really gain a foothold in this space. So that's a case that's currently in the remedies phase. So they're figuring out What's the government going to ask for in order to solve this harm that the judge found in this case? The arguments in these cases, they're pretty different.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

clear to the judge that Google intended to illegally monopolize this market and box out competitors from being able to really gain a foothold in this space. So that's a case that's currently in the remedies phase. So they're figuring out What's the government going to ask for in order to solve this harm that the judge found in this case? The arguments in these cases, they're pretty different.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

They're different industries in a sense, although, of course, the popularity of Google really arises from its search product. But I don't know if it necessarily tells us the full story of how the judge might approach this case because it is a different industry. It's a different set of facts.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

They're different industries in a sense, although, of course, the popularity of Google really arises from its search product. But I don't know if it necessarily tells us the full story of how the judge might approach this case because it is a different industry. It's a different set of facts.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

They're different industries in a sense, although, of course, the popularity of Google really arises from its search product. But I don't know if it necessarily tells us the full story of how the judge might approach this case because it is a different industry. It's a different set of facts.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

I would say it's more akin to two separate avenues, just because the first case, the search case, was filed under the Trump administration. The second case was filed under the Biden administration. The Biden administration did continue to carry out the search trial when that administration took over. So I don't think there's necessarily a dispute in how necessarily they think about these markets.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

I would say it's more akin to two separate avenues, just because the first case, the search case, was filed under the Trump administration. The second case was filed under the Biden administration. The Biden administration did continue to carry out the search trial when that administration took over. So I don't think there's necessarily a dispute in how necessarily they think about these markets.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

I would say it's more akin to two separate avenues, just because the first case, the search case, was filed under the Trump administration. The second case was filed under the Biden administration. The Biden administration did continue to carry out the search trial when that administration took over. So I don't think there's necessarily a dispute in how necessarily they think about these markets.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

But They are different cases. They kind of stemmed from different administrations. But that said, you know, there is something that's a little bit odd about talking about the advertising technology business in isolation just because a lot of the demand that, especially in Google's advertising network, comes from the popularity of search.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

But They are different cases. They kind of stemmed from different administrations. But that said, you know, there is something that's a little bit odd about talking about the advertising technology business in isolation just because a lot of the demand that, especially in Google's advertising network, comes from the popularity of search.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

But They are different cases. They kind of stemmed from different administrations. But that said, you know, there is something that's a little bit odd about talking about the advertising technology business in isolation just because a lot of the demand that, especially in Google's advertising network, comes from the popularity of search.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

And, you know, I think search is really what Google's popularity in general has always stemmed from. But I do think it's significant that we see in 2024 a federal judge saying the antitrust laws can be applied to a tech platform to say that this company illegally monopolized the market, because we haven't seen that in a really long time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

And, you know, I think search is really what Google's popularity in general has always stemmed from. But I do think it's significant that we see in 2024 a federal judge saying the antitrust laws can be applied to a tech platform to say that this company illegally monopolized the market, because we haven't seen that in a really long time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

And, you know, I think search is really what Google's popularity in general has always stemmed from. But I do think it's significant that we see in 2024 a federal judge saying the antitrust laws can be applied to a tech platform to say that this company illegally monopolized the market, because we haven't seen that in a really long time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

This case is in Alexandria of the Eastern District of Virginia. The Eastern District of Virginia actually has kind of a funny nickname in legal circles. It's known as the Rocket Docket because it's known for moving cases relatively quickly. And I think that is pretty much what we've seen here. It is being overseen by Judge Leonie Brinkema. My understanding is she's a highly respected judge.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

This case is in Alexandria of the Eastern District of Virginia. The Eastern District of Virginia actually has kind of a funny nickname in legal circles. It's known as the Rocket Docket because it's known for moving cases relatively quickly. And I think that is pretty much what we've seen here. It is being overseen by Judge Leonie Brinkema. My understanding is she's a highly respected judge.