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Lauren Villagran

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

But there's also Big Bend Ranch State Park, which is owned and paid for by Texas taxpayers.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

And photographer Omar Arnelas and I drove through the parks, and it's clear why this region attracts tens of thousands of people today.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

Every year, the really stunning desert vistas and, you know, the Rio Grande runs green and blue in some places.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

There's wildlife and camping.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

And the towns of Terlingua, between those two parks and the border town of Presidio, really rely on those tourism dollars for their survival.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

So the Trump administration has recently walked back its plans to build a physical barrier inside the National Park and inside most of the Ranch State Park.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

That being said, folks in the area are still very committed to their anti-wall activism because they worry that bringing in man camps, flood lighting, and construction that would have an upriver around Presidio headed west toward El Paso, Texas,

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

could fundamentally change the ecosystem in the area, creating flood concerns, as well as interrupting, you know, the flow of wildlife over the border.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

The other thing, Dana, is that in terms of tourism, you know, there's all these outfitters in the region, and visitors from all over the country go to take canoe trips and kayak trips down the Rio Grande, and those folks wonder, will they have access to the river?

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

I can tell you, living in a border city like El Paso, Texas,

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

Residents here do not have access to the river now.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

I mean, there's a number of very conservative people in this region, and they all say that border security is a top priority.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

What they would like to see is less invasive border security, things like drones or infrared lighting, you know, additional checkpoints or manpower.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

They are not in favor of a physical barrier, and they say the Border Patrol does already have the tools to guard the border without building a 30-foot steel barrier.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

Yeah, so the federal government can't just immediately come on a property.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

There is a process for that.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

And landowners in the region that have land along the border, this is Texas and the land is privately owned, need to give permission to the feds to survey the property and ultimately make an offer.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

The federal government is supposed to make a fair market value offer, but eminent domain means the federal government does have the right to take the land.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

I know from locals that the Army Corps of Engineer Landmen are supposed to be in the region reviewing the titles to borderland property.

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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

And I also know that a coalition working in the region is trying to organize landowners, many of whom oppose construction of the wall in their backyard.