Lauren Villagran

I was personally touched by the story of Denise Carrera.

She is a woman from Presidio, Texas, at the border, born and raised.

And she left, like many young people do, from this very small town to go to Dallas, where she worked for a decade.

But she told me, Dana, that living in the big city, she struggled to see the moon at night and that she had to use an app to try to find the moon.

She had grown up with the darkest night skies and had learned since she was little about the Milky Way and the galaxies and everything.

Truly, when you're in Presidio or some of these tiny places in this region, you can't find them at night.

There's almost no light.

And she told of coming home to Presidio in part to get back to that rural calm.

She has some remote work now that allowed her to do that.

And she burst into tears thinking about how she might lose the ability to see the stars at night should the border wall and the construction begin there.

Thanks for having me, Dana.

Yeah, there's not a perfect number because there is some overlap in the numbers in terms of what people have applied for.

But the fact of the matter is, is that more than 600,000 Venezuelan immigrants lost their temporary protected status after the Trump administration revoked it last year.

And the administration has taken a number of other steps, Dana, to curtail the legal pathways that Venezuelans had in the United States.

That includes the cancellation of a humanitarian parole program called the CHNV program.

And they're also sort of squeezing asylum as well, looking to have cases dismissed or thrown out before a judge can rule on the merits.

So, you know, Venezuela was one of the nations that the U.S.

considered recalcitrant, meaning that they frequently would not receive a deportation flight.

And that was a huge issue in the Biden administration, although there were at one point negotiations that did allow for some deportation flights.

But those had stopped in January of 2025.