Laurence Holmes

And we can also ask them why the Big Ten is winning everything.

I think it actually ties the room together in a way that we didn't realize until we were speaking together about it.

Have a great show.

Thank you.

You guys got to react.

After you got to react to Michael Reinsdorf in real time, I think you...

Yeah, you guys are good.

I think they understand it perfectly, and it's not in a different way.

Yeah, and his seeming belief that now we're going to clean it up, clean slate, but Billy's the dude, by the way, so the slate's not completely clean.

So they were on a six-year contract?

Is that what you're telling me?

I don't know.

We don't know about that life.

If there was no extension and they were in those positions for six years... I've got to check what Shams reported.

What you're saying makes absolutely all the sense in the world.

The problem is, can they remove themselves and take enough steps?

Can they backpedal far enough away from the problem to really see the big picture?

And when I listened to him yesterday, I was like, oh, he's still way too close to understanding what the actual

problem is.

Maybe.