Leah Feiger

And we're seeing layoffs or announcements of layoffs in a lot of places, right?

Like Microsoft, Coinbase, Cisco announced it was laying off like 4,000 employees.

Is this the spring of layoffs?

What are we looking at here?

I feel like you have evolved on this in some ways.

Like over the time that we've been talking about this, you really went from like, no, people aren't losing their jobs yet.

We're now in like, this is starting to happen, as Brian said.

What's the next stage of this?

Just like tons more layoffs?

Is this going to happen in a bigger, faster way?

Or are we just going to see hiring just stagnant across the board?

I like that he called her an activist judge.

I think that that has taken on like a new realm of popularity in the Trump era of like determining that these judges and this like very specific branch of the government is in fact acting against one's best interest.

What does this mean going forward for OpenAI?

The maker of butt pillows for courtrooms.

They're the real winners here.

So ready.

Couldn't be more ready.

I have my own reasons.

I'm curious what Zoe's are.