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Leah Litman

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Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

Yes.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

So the significant upshot of the Insurrection Act is it provides an exception to what's known as the Posse Comitatus Act.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

That is the law that generally forbids the federal military from engaging in ordinary law enforcement operations.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

Basically, it prevents the federal government from deploying troops to arrest people for violating federal law or an immigration offense or you name it.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

So right now, we have already seen the disastrous effects of these surges of deployments of ICE officers, CBP officers, HSI officers.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

And the concern is, what if you then add on or replace them with the federal military, which isn't trained to do ordinary law enforcement?

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

They're not necessarily trained in how to de-escalate situations.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

So that is, I think, the practical on the ground effect of invoking the Insurrection Act.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

It allows the president to use the military in ways that he has thus far not and basically been prohibited from doing.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

So the Insurrection Act is an act.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

It's a law.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

And as a law, it lays out the circumstances and conditions under which the president can invoke the Insurrection Act.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

There's really an open question about whether courts can review the president's determination that the prerequisites for invoking the Insurrection Act are indeed satisfied.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

There's also the related question of if they can review that determination, will they give the president deference?

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

That is the benefit of the doubt and all of those kind of related questions.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

And historically, courts

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

You know, the Insurrection Act is so rarely used.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

The most significant precedent we have on it actually comes from an opinion of the executive branch, the Department of Justice, you know, back from the civil rights era.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

And what that memo concluded is the Insurrection Act is really designed to allow the president to deploy the military force.

Pod Save America
What It Would Take to Rein in ICE

when state and local officers are affirmatively engaged in or facilitating the private violence that the president is concerned with.

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